Guest Heligan Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Not too happy with this description, (and rated it accordingly) but I suppose we have to be glad we get any mention at all at the same time as going ...'well not exactly'.http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/guide/relation...2-asexuals.html 2015 Edit: New link A rising phenomenon, asexuality is gaining ground in our sex-driven society, with websites and groups dedicated to abstinence, especially in the US. However, the absence of sexual desire only occurs in exceptional cases. Some want to shout it from the rooftops that they just don’t like making love. Here's all about this new form of abstinence.Who are asexuals?Asexuals are people who voluntarily abstain from sex: men and woman who aren't excluded from society or fanatics, but who have simply never felt any sexual attraction towards anyone, and accept it. It’s difficult, for obvious reasons, to know how many asexuals there are out there, but some studies claim that around 1% of the world’s population are asexual!The origins of asexualityMany factors initiated the asexual movement: overexposure to porn, the Freudian tendency to relate everything to sex which was popular in the Nineties, a refusal to be dictated to about pleasure, and the profanation of sex from being something private to being exhibitionist. As a result of all this, abstinence is no longer something to be ashamed of but rather a right, and something to be proud of. A 24-year-old man in the USA has even started a movement called A Pride and his site, Aven, is getting more and more hits every day.Psychological causesIt seems that this absence of sexual desire stems from childhood, between the age of 6 and 10 years old, during what is known as the latency period. At this age, children stop being interested in sex (after having been very curious). This disinterest usually ends at the beginning of adolescence. But for some people who refuse to grow up or who are subject to strong moral pressure are afraid of their fantasies and prefer to suppress them.Living with asexualityAsexuals don’t make love but they can masturbate (especially men), not in response to stimulation, but only because of their physical need for it. In general, asexuality is lifelong. People who unconsciously repress their sexual desires can awaken them through therapy. Link to post Share on other sites
gSOLO Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Wow... Wish there was a way to comment on it. Link to post Share on other sites
M.H. Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 wow...that's just...wow this person doesn't seem to be very well informed, and did they actually use Freud? You can't use Freud to defend psychological causes for anything...I was actually talking to a friend of mine who is a psych major today, and we discussed that reading Freud is like reading a comedy...it belongs more in a literature class than a psychology class :P I think that I would rather have no definition than one that it quite so unsatisfying -_- whoever wrote this seems to believe that asexuality is either a choice or a disorder...at the beginning of the definition, it appears that asexuality means that people simply abstain from having sex, but at the end, the entry seems to say, "they're broken, but proper therapy will fix them" though i could be reading it incorrectly...i'm in a rather difficult mood today :P Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heligan Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 wow...that's just...wow this person doesn't seem to be very well informed, and did they actually use Freud? You can't use Freud to defend psychological causes for anything...I was actually talking to a friend of mine who is a psych major today, and we discussed that reading Freud is like reading a comedy...it belongs more in a literature class than a psychology class :P I think that I would rather have no definition than one that it quite so unsatisfying -_- whoever wrote this seems to believe that asexuality is either a choice or a disorder...at the beginning of the definition, it appears that asexuality means that people simply abstain from having sex, but at the end, the entry seems to say, "they're broken, but proper therapy will fix them" though i could be reading it incorrectly...i'm in a rather difficult mood today :P I wasnt sure what to make of the last line myself, is it about asexuals or just some random comment thrown in about repressed people... either way not that helpful Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Gee. The website also has sections on Beauty, Fashion, and Horoscopes. Very authoritative, scientifically based, aimed at those who really think about stuff. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Happy Toast Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 But some people who will read it may well believe what it says. Anyway, I sent an email to the people who run the site. They have a place where you can contact them about problematic content. Hopefully that should be sufficient. I explained why it was totally wrong and gave actual citations for it and whatnot. Link to post Share on other sites
mort paradis Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The article seems to be mistaking asexuality for celibacy, which, unfortunately, is one of the more common mistakes that people make. Link to post Share on other sites
SpaceBat Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Wow. Just... Wooow. What the heck was that?? That was terrible. Haha. I didn't realize we were a group dedicated to abstinence! And I'm pretty sure I was never overexposed to porn.. And I'm entirely sure that I'm not afraid of my fantasies xD or repressing them in any way. Although, maybe we should all go give this being re-awoken through therapy thing a shot. Who knows, maybe we're all secretly sexuals who are so traumatized by our sex driven culture that we've been repressing our sexual natures since the ages of six through ten. I think that must be it. I really hope that get's fixed.. ^_^ Link to post Share on other sites
Ninny Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 *bangs head against desk* Link to post Share on other sites
mindlife Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The American interpretation is not quite correct. Asexuality is not an expression of the abstinence only movement. It has nothing whatever to do with fundamentalist Christianity or fundamentalism of any kind. It is not about celibacy. It is not about abstinence. It is not about purity, and it's not about the prudery that has ravaged our society and alienated our youth. There are many members of this board who are in sexual relationships, and the assertion that their orientation is just a form of abstinence is an insult. Link to post Share on other sites
kt8 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Eww.. *cringe* Not only badly explained, but badly written. Jeez. <_< Link to post Share on other sites
Parth Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 At this age, children stop being interested in sex (after having been very curious). What? Who is curious about sex as a young child?? Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Happy Toast Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 At this age, children stop being interested in sex (after having been very curious). What? Who is curious about sex as a young child?? I think they're relying on a dumbed down version of Freud's theory of development. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Asexuals are people who voluntarily abstain from sex Such peeps are celibate, not asexual. People who unconsciously repress their sexual desires can awaken them through therapy. Asexuals can be cured? How, by sending us to A Camp, like that in But I'm a Cheerleader! :P ? Who would hold these aversion-therapy camps? PFAX? Link to post Share on other sites
TTauri Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 PFAX just made me laugh. Sorry, I couldn't take that seriously. It's so reassuring that all the studies done by the gay scientists, and the right to happiness based on orgasms (ours and others), is helping this tax-exempt, non-profit, organisation to "fix" us! And the last sentence, oh, curing us by porn??? Link to post Share on other sites
Hallucigenia Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'm still trying to figure out why anybody would spend time at a website called "sofeminine" in the first place. o_O Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heligan Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'm still trying to figure out why anybody would spend time at a website called "sofeminine" in the first place. o_O LOL, it just turned up in search engine results for 'painful sex', 'asexual'... Once you get there its a bit like trying not to watch a car crash (well at least if you aint so very feminine) I did the 'your boyfriends ex quiz', just out of curiosity as to why I lose so many male friends to relationships and it turns out its because how they view me is how I am... ah right completely justified then LOL. Beyond belief eh! Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Happy Toast Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 The PFAX image is awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
AngelOfTheMoor Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 That definition is ridiculous! It makes asexuality sound like some sort of movement composed of prudes! There's a difference between reacting to an oversexed culture and being asexual, as I'm sure everyone here knows. And that picture with the definition seems slightly sexual to me. I also agree with those who wondered why anyone would go to a website called "soFeminine!" I did that numerology thing on there . . . it wasn't very exciting. The entry on lack of sex drive begins like this: If your sex life has dried up and you can't remember the last time you got it on with your partner, the most shocking thing might be that you're not actually missing sex. This can be a worry, but there's no cause for panic! That sort of cracked me up! Probably because I can't relate, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
EGAD! Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Is this for real!? *wanted to type snarky comment, but decided not to* Link to post Share on other sites
endplusone Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 ^ I'm with them... is that for realz? I checked out PFOX (reluctantly) and couldn't find anything about asexuality. Nothing like a website dedicated to such bullshit as proclaiming "tolerance for all" and "rights" by advocating people changing orientation in order to lead better lives, when their life would be fine if there wasn't such a massive stigma surrounding it (which PFOX add to). Can't stand that sly, conniving motive and language. Ew. The definition is atrocious. I'm wondering how many hits it actually gets (no idea how popular "SoFeminine" is as a resource). Is there a way to contact someone on the website about the issue? Link to post Share on other sites
AVENCakes Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 They even mis-capitalized AVEN. How the heck hard is it to capitalize 4 letters? And that PFOX thing is scary- I hope it's fake. o_o Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 And that PFOX thing is scary- I hope it's fake. o_o PFAX is fake; 'tis a joke. And about as funny as SoFeminine. But the SoFeminine page is supposed to be 4 realz? Link to post Share on other sites
Astryda Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well, they're right about one thing- that asexuals don't feel sexual attraction to anyone. Maybe they think that we don't feel this attraction so have decided to live in celibacy, because we still can but don't want to have sex. In some cases, they can be right. Another article that should be commented: 'Don't pretend to be an expert of something that you don't have a clue about'. At this age, children stop being interested in sex (after having been very curious). What? Who is curious about sex as a young child?? Actually, many children are interested in sex not being conscious what they are interested in. People who unconsciously repress their sexual desires can awaken them through therapy. Asexuals can be cured? How, by sending us to A Camp, like that in But I'm a Cheerleader! :P ? I wanna go to A Camp, that would be fun And maybe we could teach them something about asexuality. Who would hold these aversion-therapy camps? PFAX? I don't want to offend anyone but that's ridiculous <_< Link to post Share on other sites
M.H. Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We should totally start an A camp! We could have fun activites and eat smores! Good fun for all :lol: Link to post Share on other sites
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