Frigid/Prude-Shaming !

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Hello all!

I'm a new recruit and very happy to have found this place. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the bellow. I'm sorry its so long, I suppose I have a lot on my mind. I've divided it up into sections, so feel free to skip some of them!

(I'm posting this in the grey area as this is where I personally stand, though input from everyone is much more than welcome)

- Main topic of post -

I'm interested in knowing whether anyone else has ever referred to themselves as 'Frigid' in a positive way. The term, as I'm sure people are aware, has connotations of stiffness, coldness and formality and is specifically used to refer to women who are “inhibited in the ability to experience sexual excitement during sexual activity” (Female sexual arousal disorder ) and HSDD*. Its safe to say that its a negative term, primarily reserved for the reprobation of women who fail to 'put out'. The idea is that it is a bad thing not to have sex or be sexual, particularly of women. (its interesting that women are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Apparently if men have sex they are men and if they don't they are gentlemen)

I have always been rather p####d at this idea. I have, for some time, referred to myself as “Frigid, but not a prude”. Prudishness I feel is an entirely different ball game. It is usually defined as being “uncomfortable with sexuality and nudity”. I am sex positive (as I’m sure a lot of people here are), and I think nudism is marvelous. I will talk to whomever about the porn industry, female ejaculation, etc., hang out with nudists and go to all the queer performance nights in the city, I just won't talk about my experiences with porn, sex or get naked on stage myself. I initially started calling myself Frigid as a sort of joke, in a not-taking-myself-too-seriously kinda way, but it became a retaliation to the modern idea of 'slut-positivity', if you will. As I said I am sex positive, but if I’m honest I have a few problems with the Slut Walk mantra.** The whole idea of it being liberal, feminist, forward thinking, free etc. if you have sex with whoever you like, to the point where you're looked down on if you don't. “Oh look at her, poor thing, she's so repressed”. Whatever happened to modesty being a good thing? Why does the sex-positive movement automatically make someone who does not have lots of sex, or someone who covered up a little more, a poor idiot unaware of 'repressive social norms' who is in need of an (sex)intervention. I took on the 'Frigid' identity in the same way that the sex-positive movement has taken on the 'Slut' identity. Though I hate the term 'reclaiming', that is in effect what I (unintentionally/unconsciously) try to do. In the same way as they assert that -someone who has lots of sex, a 'Slut', is not then morally deprived,- I wanted to assert that someone who does not have a lot of sex, 'Frigid', is not cold, stiff and formal.

I would love to know your thoughts on this, just as the sex-positive movement accuses people of slut-shaming, I would accuse society in general, the queer-gay scene in (MASSIVE) particular, of frigid-shaming and I would love this to be/become a 'thing'. (though if you read the rest I raise some issues/questions with it)

- My Story -

I had always been curious about my sexual identity. I grew up considering myself straight but looking back I was confused about what it meant to be attracted to someone (its not really something people explain to you at 8 ). As I grew older (currently 24) I veered towards the 'Pansexual' identity, but never fully accepted it as I knew I was rarely attracted to people and knew it was the 'person' I was attracted to rather than any immediately tangible thing like gender/colour/shape. I decided to considered myself as quite 'closed' sexually. I figured that because there aren't that many people I feel a sexual connection with, I don't feel comfortable being sexualised, or purposefully presenting myself as overly sexualised. I wouldn't say that it feels dishonest, but it is something like that, as I do not view this other person in the same sexual way. Because my relationship with other people is one far removed from anything sexual, I feel awkward when the response isn't mutual. I then do not wear revealing clothes or talk about my sex-life (or lack there of) with very many people. As a woman I am very aware of how sexualised the female body is, of course it is a separate debate as to whether this should be so, but regardless of how society views my body, I very much view my body in a sexual way, I would then only show it to the (very) few people I share my bed with. I grew up in a Catholic house going to strict all girls schools and as such, was raised with very clear ideas about appropriate dressing and make-up. That is to say 'Modesty' was never sold to be as a negative thing so I never really had any personal conflict about the fact that I didn't sexualise myself. I was happy being frigid.

About a week ago however I happened to see a comment on FB, under a picture advocating bi-sexual acceptance and awareness, where someone had written "I wish there was as much support for asexuality". I instantly thought "Yes!! Damn it!! To F##k with all this 'I'm a slut and I'm proud' BS, why are you necessarily repressed/have issues/ill/boring, etc. etc. if you don't sleep with (a lot of) people". (and I know there is more too the issue of awareness, its just this was the first place my mind went) It was then that it occurred to me that perhaps I had a connection to this group of people and wondered if there was a scale of asexuality. After a little research I now identify as a demi-sexual pan-romantic and to be honest it scares me. I now consider my 'modesty' as part and parcel of my sexuality and I am sure from reading the above, you are not surprised at my new 'identity'. The problem is that as a demi-sexual I am not asexual. I have the desire to have sex/kiss/make out with people, perhaps it could even be called a high libido, but as a (I’m pretty sure at least) demi-sexual, the opportunity to act out these desires comes but rarely. I had previously put it down to bad luck, but now I know (?) that there is a concrete reason behind my slow sex/(relationship)life and I can't help but worry that there's no hope. As I said, no internal conflict with my modesty, but since i'm not asexual, there is internal conflict with being demi-sexual. I'm (again) pretty sure looking back on the relationships I have had that I was NOT having sex with them for my pleasure/attracted to them. I have definitely been attracted to people and wanted them badly, but its rare as the 'scene' makes it difficult to get to know people and when I have managed it its never worked out. ( :( ) As such I am extremely frustrated. Finding out that this, whatever this that I am is, is an actual thing, depressed me the more I thought about it. Part of me is saying to myself, its fine, its just like before, but now you know you just have to make an effort to get to know people/join more after-school activities groups! The other side of me runs back to the frigid identity. I've started to think that perhaps I feel its safer because to call yourself frigid makes it sound like a choice, like its something you want. I think for me this puts me back in control of the situation, takes away the idea of it being hopeless, but then it makes me question whether it is an identity that the asexual community can embrace...

- Is there an element of choice? -

(This is where I don't claim to have a full understanding of the asexual community, and perhaps the following statements will offend, but please excuse my naivety, I am sorry in advance if anything I say is wrong, I don't presume that it isn't)

I have heard it said that an asexual person would not take a pill to make them have a 'normal' sex life. The idea, as far as I can understand it, is that in saying you don't want the pill, you are saying- I like being asexual/there's nothing wrong with being asexual/not having (lots of) sex/there’s no such thing as normal. It is not that an asexual person has chosen this sex-life, but in saying that they wouldn't take a pill, they have chosen to keep their sex-life. (I know that I am being very general in talking about asexual people not having sex and that this does not apply to all but in the interest of brevity) As I see it, the question boils down to- is it a choice (that whilst you didn't choose it the first time) you would choose. If there is nothing wrong with not having sex (if Frigid-shaming is wrong) then there is nothing wrong with being asexual/grey a/demi so even though we did not choose to be aces we choose not to change. Can we take 'Frigid' to mean the idea of -not having (lots of) sex is a good thing- without the idea of this being your choice? Or is it your choice in that as identifying as asexual/grey a/demi you are accepting who you are, taking pride in it and not changing to fit in with sexual-norms.

I still like the idea of claiming the term 'Frigid' like the sex-positivists have claimed 'slut'. Just before I posted this I was perusing FB, as you do, and the Asexual Awareness Week FB page had posted a link to this:

Their (AAW) point had been to highlight the fact that it is misguided to posit causal sex as the opposite of asexuality/ that it is possible for asexual people to be polyamorous etc. but people in the comments did raise the issue of prude-shaming. As I said above, for me prude is the wrong word, but it serves the same point in this case. This picture is a clear example of how ignored it is that frigid/prude-shaming is wrong compared to how bashed slut-shaming is. The picture is about not shaming people!! But only 'sexually open' people...

so yeah, that's it! Thanks for sticking with me this far! Would you call yourself 'Frigid' ?

(I'm curious to hear what other demi-sexuals would do with this pill. I obviously agree with- no such thing as normal and -its not wrong to not want sex, but with my libido as it is, I don't know what I'd do with that pill. Its the idea of being proud to be demi vs having a simpler life. Its safe to say I’m conflicted.)

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*I would note that I am very aware of the desire to distance the asexual community from the HSDD diagnosis. I am not definitely not advocating the use of 'Frigid' in the original technical sense of the word. I think it would be safe to say that the majority, vast majority, of people using the term have never heard of Female sexual arousal disorder or HSDD and so do not mean it this way themselves. Though perhaps this is an issue for people?

**Slut Walk – I just don't think its possible to put its various points across with the way it goes about it. It is saying “I'm a slut and I'm proud”, (So 'Slut' is a good thing, OK) “I can wear what I want and you don't get to look just because you can”, (but that’s not going to stop them looking) “Just because I'm wearing little/no clothes doesn't mean you get to treat me like a slut.”, (is this a different idea of 'slut'? Doesn't it sound like a bad thing now?) “I got raped wearing jeans and a t-shirt” (which proves it doesn't matter in the first place what you're wearing...) - I dunno, it just seems a mess of different ideas that don't translate very well to the general public, it all seems confused and a little contrived. I also don't think you can wear whatever you want, whenever you want as long as the naked body is sexualised and as long as (most)men feel that they are entitled to sex from women. If we don't want the naked (particularly female) body to be sexualised, marching the street in no clothes calling yourself a slut isn't the most effective way to go about it. I just find it a little rebellious in a cutting-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face way.

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Please enjoy this cake! :D

x

[red_brick_dream]

In all honesty, I haven't read your post (that will have to wait until after my shift at work, for which I'm leaving very shortly!), but I thought you and the others might get a little boost out of this blog post:

http://collegecandy.com/2012/04/26/stop-prude-shaming-sexy-time/

[BaronTheCat]

(its interesting that women are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Apparently if men have sex they are men and if they don't they are gentlemen)

Not really. If men have sex they are men and if they don't they are gay. Which means they're lying about not having sex. Because all gays are obsessed with sex.

...strange kind of reasoning, I know, but it seems many people think that way, at least where I live ^_^

I liked your picture, except that "asexual" doesn't equal "not having sex".

As for your question, I haven't used the term frigid about myself, but I have called myself prude, old-fashioned and "Victorian" :) But I'm not very comfortable with nudity. I am sex-positive, though, in the sense that I think no sexual behavior (including celibacy and monogamy) should be condemned, unless it harms others ...or the person taking part in it.

I agree that sex-positivity has lowered the tolerance for celibacy, monogamy, being private about sex, and similar traits/behaviors. Which is bad, because the point about breaking the norms isn't to replace them with new norms, that oppress other categories of people!

Edit for clarification:Personally, I'm disgusted by certain sexual practices. This is something I have in common with many people, regardless of orientation. Because sex is often very emotional, very personal, and includes the release of certain body fluids, many of us are disgusted by behaviors that we wouldn't engage in ourselves, or get uncomfortable if others engage in sex while we're watching. That's why I think sexual activities should not occur in public or private non-sexual settings. I also think it's not okay to walk around nude/almost nude everywhere, for the same reasons as why you wouldn't go to a restaurant wearing pyjamas, or pick your nose in public. Even if the individual doesn't mind doing those things, it makes others uncomfortable.

[Great Thief Yatagarasu]

I can see that you're new, and so welcome to AVEN. I know what I'm about to say is probably going to read as being quite rude, but it has to be said.

Fuck no, I'm not calling myself frigid. Reason being that I am not cold, stiff, overly formal or "closed off" somehow. It also means a person who is unemotional, unimaginative, lacking in feeling and sensitivity towards others. Why the hell would I ever say that I'm frigid? Or even a prude, because prude is an offensive term too. Both of them are - why on earth would you use either of them? Also, frigid means "of low temperature", as in actually being physically cold - slut, however, just means a "dirty woman" - you'll notice that one can be used as a general adjective to describe cold things while the other is a general slur. Plus, as I will explain later, it's not a term that's used as a slur as much as you think it is.

The implication that you feel you have to say you're frigid as some kind of "reclaiming the term" thing is ridiculous, since despite being sex positive, you seem to think that the slut walks are somehow looking down on people who aren't that sexual? Really? Because the idea of sex positivity is that anyone can do what they like, whether that be having sex with a different person every night to staying sex free for years on end. That's what sex positivity is. And while most people here will know that life is hard for those who don't have sex, most of the people who give us aces a hard time are NOT sex positive, and would give us just as much flack for engaging in promiscuous behaviour (either that, or they tend to be the kind of people who lack understanding, and are either massively ignorant people who still don't think asexuality is real even after you explain it, or people who can actually be talked to and reasoned with). To say that you want to reclaim the term frigid as some kind of massive "fuck you!" to the slut walk movement is incredibly insensitive and ill thought out (I'll elaborate on why this is later). Yes, there are some feminists who think that you need to have lots of sex to be a "liberated woman" - but there are also feminists who believe that femininity in itself is terrible, there are feminists who hate trans people...basically, while the feminist cause is good, there are feminist groups out there who are stupid and awful. They do NOT make up the entirety of feminism. To judge feminism and the sex positive movement like this is incredibly generalising.

And in my personal experience, being demisexual, as my behaviour (not my orientation) happens to fit in with what most people see as the norm, I've found that a lot of people seem to think that you're "noble" or "sweet" or "moral" for choosing not to have sex with people you're not in a relationship with and staying celibate when not in a relationship. I haven't been implied to be frigid by any sex positive people, nor have I been implied to be such the entire time I was in college. The people who tend to call other people frigid are usually high schoolers who have yet to learn that sex isn't some kind of badge of honour, or something that will make you cool, or something that you have to do in certain situations, and even then it's a general fact among said high schoolers that if a guy calls a girl frigid then he must be a sexist douchebag who no one should go out with. As an adult, it's not an issue since I've never in my life heard any adult - either ones I know or in the media - use the term frigid to describe another person. However, I HAVE heard plenty of adults call promiscuous women sluts. In my experience, while there's general teasing and dickishness towards people who don't have sex, there's A LOT more derision aimed at promiscuous people. You've forgotten that in women, virginity and faithfulness are still considered virtues, so it's not so big a deal if a woman wants to hold off on sex. Stopping people from shaming celibate people is a good goal, don't get me wrong - the lives of all of us aces would be much better for it. However, do we really want to reclaim this term? This term, which, on the rare occasion it IS used, it seen as more a sign that the person saying it is an immature, selfish dickbag?

And you are making SUCH bad generalisations about the slut walks, it's unreal. Let me pick them apart for you:

1. Firstly, let us replace "slut" with "promiscuous woman." This is because women want to take the word "slut", an insult against promiscuous women, and take away the negative implications of being promiscuous. So a promiscuous woman should be able to say that she's "a slut and proud" because there's nothing wrong with her behaviour.
   
2. When you say "and you don't get to look just because you can," they don't just mean looking - they instead mean ogling, which is an entirely different thing. If I were to glance at a person's boobs because they were very obvious, but I otherwise kept things respectful and mindful of her thoughts and feelings on the matter, then that's fine. If, however, I were to stare at her boobs, despite her comments of "my eyes are up here", then I'm being disrespectful of her wishes. This same courtesy and respect applies even when a woman is wearing revealing clothing.
   
3. When you say "treat me like a slut", this is NOT because being a slut is a bad thing all of a sudden - merely that a person's sexual behaviour should NOT be assumed purely because of what she is wearing. If a woman is wearing low cut clothes and she considers herself a slut, that's great, but we should not look at that woman wearing her low cut clothes and assume that she's promiscuous.
   
4. This is the point where you've offended me the most. Because that's the entire POINT. The whole POINT of the slut walks was to not only say that promiscuous behaviour and low cut clothes in women are okay, but that these qualities are NOT excuses for rape. The entire point was that a policeman advised a group of women that if they didn't want to be raped, then they shouldn't "dress like sluts." A big part of both slut shaming and victim blaming is the fact that if a woman is wearing revealing clothes and ends up getting raped, then it's somehow her fault that she was raped. The women who had the signs "I was raped in a t-shirt and jeans" are saying that when it comes to rape, clothing really DOESN'T matter, because the rapist will still have it in his head that he wants to attack you - it furthers the message that you cannot blame a victim for being raped purely because of what they're wearing. In saying that this is contradictory to the above points, you've clearly not understood the concept of the slut walks AT ALL. So no offence meant here - but don't talk about things you don't understand.
   
5. ...Really?! So as long as men hold a sexist attitude towards women's bodies, we should be good little girls and only wear modest clothes that will appease them and stop them from raping us? Hahaha no. The entire POINT of the marches was to show that regardless of a woman's dress and behaviour - which should be her free choice - men should still respect us and our choices without using them as excuses for when the terrible few decide they want to abuse us. Saying that wearing revealing clothes and reclaiming the term slut is somehow hurting that cause is missing the point so massively that I could almost cry, it's so funny.
   
6. One more point about the slut walks - at no point during ANY of those walks did ANYONE even vaguely imply that not having lots of sex was a bad thing. Seriously, no one did this. For you to look at the slut walks and say that it must be some kind of attack against you - I'll be honest, that says more about you than it does about the slut walk movement.
   

Again, I'm sorry if that read as being really vitriolic, but I disagree so much with what you had to say. Stopping people from shaming asexuals and other celibate people is a very valid goal, don't get me wrong - but attacking the slut walks and reclaiming terms that are still very much insulting in almost every context isn't the way to go about it.

On your "life story" - if you want to present yourself as wearing more modest clothes, then that's fine. Power to you. But while the female body is sexualised by the media, people should still be respectful to the people who own female bodies (because not all female bodies are women's bodies). Taking everything I've said above, people should be able to do what they like with their bodies, and they should be proud of this - that applies to you just as much as it does to all the self-proclaimed sluts. As a demisexual myself, I used to have a VERY anti-sex attitude towards other women during high school - I would look down on the more promiscuous girls, and I thought myself better than them and with a higher morality. This was because, in an absence of sexual attraction, I didn't realise that I wasn't being sexually attracted to people and I thought everyone felt like I did - using that logic, every sexual action a person did was an active choice, because I didn't realise people had sex drives and attraction and "needs" that would influence these choices. It was only when I realised I wasn't fully sexual that I realised how stupid I'd been, and how absolutely WRONG I had been in the past - if I can be demisexual, and have the freedom to choose what to do with my body considering my orientation, then everyone else can as well. Strangely, as I am sexually attracted to my (very loving and understanding) boyfriend, it doesn't seem so strange to me. I'm rather comfortable with my sexual feelings as far as he's concerned, and there's something quite enjoyable about exploring something which seemed to me like an unobtainable thing that I'd never understand. It's strange - I used to think that this would be this really complicated thing that I would have to balance, but it isn't. I just happen to be asexual to the world, except for my boy. It's not that scary once you get used to the idea, trust me.

I never CHOSE to be demisexual. Just like no one chooses to be straight, or gay. And there's already an asexual pride movement, so you're a bit late to the mark there.

Sorry for the massively long post, but it was needed to vent my thoughts here. Welcome to aven, and don't let me put you off hanging around.

[Guest]

I agree with the OP about the Slut Walk.

[Kitty Spoon Train]

(its interesting that women are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Apparently if men have sex they are men and if they don't they are gentlemen)

Not really. If men have sex they are men and if they don't they are gay.

This.

I'm not even ace (I'm demisexual). And I'm utterly sick of this idea that all "straight" men want sex by default with any available female who's around, otherwise there is something "wrong" with us. It's basically the reverse of "slut-shaming", and it's very annoying.

[Janus the Fox]

Eh... I don't like that openness image as asexuals can be as open to it as any other orientation, it is sexual attractions not behavior after all... Asexual Whores hmm...

[annix]

I haven't read your full post, but I just wanted to give a quick reply regarding frigidity.

The term, as I'm sure people are aware, has connotations of stiffness, coldness and formality and is specifically used to refer to women who are “inhibited in the ability to experience sexual excitement during sexual activity” (Female sexual arousal disorder ) and HSDD*. [emphasis mine]

I don't consider myself old, being in my mid-twenties and all, and I have heard frigid being used to indicate a person is not merely cold but sexually defective. So, I won't use it for myself and will be offended if used to describe me, as I do not think it is even at the start of being reclaimed at this point.

Regarding Hypoactive sexual desire disorder, while the DSM-IV doesn't use "frigidity"(never did, afaik), the International Statistical Classification (ICD-10) published by the WHO still lists "frigidity" analogous to HSDD (see ICD-10 F52.0).

[test account]

There was a thread that talked about reclaiming the word "frigid". Nice if it were possible.

I do not claim to be sex positive because I don't know if I am. Besides which I really dislike that term. It sounds to me like saying "I'm not a prude, honest!" Well so what if they are? If one is really okay with people doing whatever sex they want then one doesn't need to mention it in my opinion. It wouldn't even occur to them to do so because they'd assume their attitude was "normal". So for "sex positive" I generally read "closet prude" which is fine if they'd just be honest about it.

[Estranged]

Call me cold-hearted all you like, but don't call me frigid. I don't like the idea of trying to "reclaim" (did we ever own it to begin with?) negative terms. The sooner we stop calling each other and ourselves insulting terms the better.

As for "sex positive", I agree that it's odd for someone to declare that about themselves. It'd be like a straight person feeling the need to declare themselves heterosexual. But I don't think it means people are closet prudes. It might for some, but it just looks like over labeling to me.

[NamTar]

There was a thread that talked about reclaiming the word "frigid". Nice if it were possible.

I do not claim to be sex positive because I don't know if I am. Besides which I really dislike that term. It sounds to me like saying "I'm not a prude, honest!" Well so what if they are? If one is really okay with people doing whatever sex they want then one doesn't need to mention it in my opinion. It wouldn't even occur to them to do so because they'd assume their attitude was "normal". So for "sex positive" I generally read "closet prude" which is fine if they'd just be honest about it.

Well, I've called myself sex positive here for the following reasons:

(1) Because many people here are anti-sex, and it's useful to differentiate oneself from those people if one is not anti-sex

(2) Because I've been in relationships with sexuals, and have had a fair amount of sex, and while I don't actively desire sex, I have no real issue with other people having sex or wanting sex. I'm certainly not a closet prude and I find it unlikely that many other people who use the term are, either.

In most circumstances, no one would call themselves sex positive, that's true. They wouldn't have to mention it. But because of the large number of seemingly anti-sex people here, people do find it useful to use that term.

[Sally]

Call me cold-hearted all you like, but don't call me frigid. I don't like the idea of trying to "reclaim" (did we ever own it to begin with?) negative terms. The sooner we stop calling each other and ourselves insulting terms the better.

Exactly.

[evigmidnatt]

at first when i got called it as a kid i didn't get it.

then in High School I fell into what i think was my first real post Star Trek fandom and one of the best charectars got called Frigid so i figured it was a good thing.

then i figured out what it meant, but by then no one really cared if i liked it or not, so along with all the size, sub culture and geek bashing i got i just turned it to my favour. unless i'm having a really bad day i just turn and say something harsh about the persons own state. which i know is wrong (and i'm over using full stops) but its better than dwelling on ignorance

[Beachwalker]

I think being frigid is ok. There is nothing wrong with not being into sex. Being frigid is ok. Being frigid is cool, it is the new hot. There are only negative connotations associated with the word frigid because society as a whole considers it abnormal to not be into sex. I am a frigid asexual.

[ZOMBIEFLUFFBALL]

I kind of get the impression that the slut walk was more about women being able to dress anyway they desire without the fear of rape. I don't really see the movement being about women celebrating being sluts, and rather celebrating the fact that we are allowed to dress however we like. I find it really sad that society labels someone as a 'slut' because of they way they dress. I sometimes like to dress in skimpy clothes (just to feel pretty or because its hot) and I am very 'frigid'/prudish by nature and yet some stranger would possibly view me as slut, something isn't right with that! To be honest I actually have a problem with the fact that they had to call this movement the 'slut' walk, I think that there should be another positive way to draw attention to this issue.

Now regarding frigid/prudish etc. I actually consider myself a prude, and I am proud of it. I am proud of the fact that I will not allow anyone but someone who I am in a loving committed relationship with to touch me in such an intimate matter. To be honest I kind of think sex is a little over-rated and that society as a whole makes way too much of a deal out of it! Yes, I do think its important in a course of a relationship but I don't think it should be the most IMPORTANT thing in a relationship nor do I really think that I personally could just go out and sleep with anybody and everybody.

I am a sexual dating a asexual and sometimes I think it would be easy if they had some kind of pill that took away sexual desire, but at the end of the day if something like that did exist I probably wouldn't take it. The reason for this is because of the fact that by doing so it would possibly change who I am. On the flip side of the coin I also wouldn't want my GF to take a pill either. I want her the way she is, and if that means I get very limited sexual interaction then like I said earlier sex is kind of over rated anyways. So....... yeah..... hope that helps answer your questions even if I am not asexual or even a demi.

[BaronTheCat]

I kind of get the impression that the slut walk was more about women being able to dress anyway they desire without the fear of rape. I don't really see the movement being about women celebrating being sluts, and rather celebrating the fact that we are allowed to dress however we like. I find it really sad that society labels someone as a 'slut' because of they way they dress. I sometimes like to dress in skimpy clothes (just to feel pretty or because its hot) and I am very 'frigid'/prudish by nature and yet some stranger would possibly view me as slut, something isn't right with that! To be honest I actually have a problem with the fact that they had to call this movement the 'slut' walk, I think that there should be another positive way to draw attention to this issue.

Good point, I think.