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Chamomile_Serenity
On 5/14/2019 at 3:47 PM, Spotastic said:

What I hate is getting carded for buying cough medicine...

oh wow 😲

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3 hours ago, ByeYall! said:

Another thing about medicine that bothers me is the idiots who have abused prescription painkillers have made it impossible for people who really need them to get them. My father has cancer and he can only get a for fifteen day supply. He has throat cancer and its pressing on a nerve and causing sever pain. 

That's a terrible situation to be in. And yup I can rant for days about our medical system, but alas...RaNdom but interesting quote they gave you (or you gave you?)"Take the clear pill and see the world for what it is!" 

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@Chamomile_Serenity I found the alt-right/ weird whiny dudes section of YouTube and there was all this talk of red and blue and black pills and how they show you the world in its real colors and all this other strange stuff. So I thought a clear pill would be the pill that really worked because its not a pill at all. Its just my little expression of anger with culture at the moment. 

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bluedragonwings

You would think, that after all this time on this space rock, I would have a better grasp of humans and how to deal with them. It is evident I REALLY do not. Especially when I hear someone describe an interaction they have had, and they are really upset by it, but to me it sounds like a normal conversation being blown out of proportion. I find it really hard to comfort them in any meaningful way. (It tends to sound like I am defending the other person, even if I am not).

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On 5/17/2019 at 6:25 AM, ByeYall! said:

@Chamomile_Serenity I found the alt-right/ weird whiny dudes section of YouTube and there was all this talk of red and blue and black pills and how they show you the world in its real colors and all this other strange stuff. So I thought a clear pill would be the pill that really worked because its not a pill at all. Its just my little expression of anger with culture at the moment. 

The real dose of reality comes in the form of banana flavoured syrup. 

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As a kid when I had to take antibiotics my doctor prescribed a kind that was a banana flavoured syrup so I wouldn't just spit it back out when my mom gave it to me. 

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4 hours ago, bluedragonwings said:

You would think, that after all this time on this space rock, I would have a better grasp of humans and how to deal with them. It is evident I REALLY do not. Especially when I hear someone describe an interaction they have had, and they are really upset by it, but to me it sounds like a normal conversation being blown out of proportion. I find it really hard to comfort them in any meaningful way. (It tends to sound like I am defending the other person, even if I am not).

I don't remember if you've said that you're autistic like me, but that's the world I live in, too. Neurotypical people are beyond my ability to understand in a lot of ways.

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4 hours ago, ByeYall! said:

@Snao Cone I thought you meant maple syrup for pancakes! 

No, but that is a much better idea than a red pill or a blue pill or whatever. 

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Chamomile_Serenity
On 5/17/2019 at 7:25 AM, ByeYall! said:

@Chamomile_Serenity I found the alt-right/ weird whiny dudes section of YouTube and there was all this talk of red and blue and black pills and how they show you the world in its real colors and all this other strange stuff. So I thought a clear pill would be the pill that really worked because its not a pill at all. Its just my little expression of anger with culture at the moment. 

I had an idea of the clear pill reference, but you confirmed my thoughts. (The Matrix is probably one of my favorite movies so much goodness in that trilogy that I think a lot of people missed). And yep, I get it! I bet that section of YouTube gave you all kinds of fun conversation starters LOL 

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@Chamomile_Serenity yeah! "So, ladies" *sips expensive small batch cognac* "How do you feel about enforced monogamy?" * wiggles eyebrows seductively. "Or maybe even letting me sex you up against your will because rape is a feminist myth that defies nature?" 

It was actually frightening what people believe these days. I am seriously concerned for the future. 

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34 minutes ago, ByeYall! said:

@Chamomile_Serenity yeah! "So, ladies" *sips expensive small batch cognac* "How do you feel about enforced monogamy?" * wiggles eyebrows seductively. "Or maybe even letting me sex you up against your will because rape is a feminist myth that defies nature?" 

It was actually frightening what people believe these days. I am seriously concerned for the future. 

Yikes! I have read from my spiritually inclined friends, that it a last war cry before elevated growth in overall consciousness...fine, reflecting on history and patterns the concern is how many casualties along the way before the pendulum swings back to 'okay those were terrible days and we've learned our lesson for the next decade or so... maybe' but I think that would be taking this convo into another type of discussion thread and well, I'm just not going there tonight.  But I noted you said "what people believe" and that's the ticket here. That's what makes things what they are belief systems. They really can make or break a society. 

 

18 minutes ago, Spotastic said:

Are those actual quotes? Holy crap...

IKR?!

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Those are in fact the beliefs of alt-right nutjobs. Enforced monogamy is espoused by Jordan Peterson and various MRA and PUA groups believe that in nature animals do not give consent so why should humans? Like there isnt a difference between humans and animals. 

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...I am so glad I'm not entwined in a heterosexual lifestyle where I'd have to look for a male partner among people who believe those things.

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There is the weird misandry thing too, where women think men are nothing more than sperm donors so it cuts both ways. Luckily they are minorities on either end of the right/left spectrum.

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On 5/20/2019 at 7:32 AM, ByeYall! said:

Those are in fact the beliefs of alt-right nutjobs. Enforced monogamy is espoused by Jordan Peterson and various MRA and PUA groups believe that in nature animals do not give consent so why should humans? Like there isnt a difference between humans and animals. 

Apparently these people haven't watch enough nature documentaries, because there are plenty of species where mating is entirely dependent on the female giving the go ahead. If she's not impressed by the male, she moves on.  

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@LVG they seem to think because animals can't say "no sex" that its not consensual. Technically, in the very barest sense, they are right: animals can't so no. But they are violating a basic principle used in all ethical discourse: even if something is true in nature, it tells us nothing about its value. So yeah, its a fallacious argument even before you take into account that there are ways females signal their receptivity to mates in the wild. 

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Bntyhntrqueen
On 5/20/2019 at 7:32 AM, ByeYall! said:

Those are in fact the beliefs of alt-right nutjobs. Enforced monogamy is espoused by Jordan Peterson and various MRA and PUA groups believe that in nature animals do not give consent so why should humans? Like there isnt a difference between humans and animals. 

I find that hilarious because those are likely the same people preaching creationism.

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bluedragonwings

Been thinking about the genetic lotto and who made it how long in my family. I have 75% chance of making it to very old age. The 25% is die before any possibilities of retirement. 

 

The things that that I enjoy always seem to push me towards that 25%. So it’s like enjoy now vs hope for later. 

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Jasmine Flowers

Hello my fellow 30(?) Friends. 

 

I have enjoyed reading this page of comments. Thank you to the contributors   

 

I am just now realizing the damaging effects of brainwash on society. I actually just realized that I was just a damn animal that has been completely fucked up by my own species.  Lol

 

 

I arrive late.  But I arrive regardless.  

 

XO❤️

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These are words of wisdom @Jasmine Flowers . 😉

 

I am also new to this topic and very glad to see some people with similar concerns as mine.

 

Before I can find something else useful to post, here are some awesome references to the VHS generation GUNSHIP - When you grow up, your hart dies

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Jasmine Flowers

Thank you I enjoyed the video 😊

 

I saw a comment earlier about prescription medication...

 

My main concern is that modern medicine is riddled with side effect poison.  Does anyone else consider this unacceptable?  We are supposedly so evolved, yet side effects are acceptable!!!?

 

@Saphoune

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It is not that surprising that some medecine have side effects. Medicines can be well dosed poisons. I trust my doctor

However the pharmaceutical industry is doing a fine job, marketing medicine as if they were commodity products. They try to make us forget about the risk. That is clearly not acceptable.

In the US, I saw a lot of ads for prescription medicine against diabetes, alzeimer,..., with looong small prints disclaimer scrolling accross the screen. That felt rather strange to hear them recommend to "Talk about this with your doctor". One would expect the physician to initiate this kind of talk rather than the patient. In my country, there are also ads for over the counter drugs (paracetamol, aspirin,...).

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Drug advertisements like that aren't allowed in Canada. You can either have the drug name in the commercial, or list symptoms and say "talk to your doctor". So, for example, Viagra and Cialis have ads with nothing but vague references to marital bliss, then the ad shows the drug logo. Other ads might be "If your lungs are literally escaping your body, see your doctor" but not have any info on what treatment there is. I'm assuming this helps avoid situations where the patient thinks they know more than the doctor about a medication they passively heard about on TV, but with the internet at everyone's fingertips that might be moot. 

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I wish the ads were like that here, but no. I have to hear "if you have an erection lasting more than four hours, call your doctor." Thanks, but I really didn't want to hear about a prolonged boner on TV. And don't get me started on all the other "ED" remedy commercials. They make it sound like limp dicks are the next black plague. 

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Jasmine Flowers

@LVG

Yes, I agree.  Our society is completely manipulated. Sex is way overrated!

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kiaroskuro
On 6/3/2019 at 3:45 AM, Jasmine Flowers said:

My main concern is that modern medicine is riddled with side effect poison.  Does anyone else consider this unacceptable?  We are supposedly so evolved, yet side effects are acceptable!!!?

 

@Saphoune

It's completely unacceptable, and it baffles me that so very few people find it outrageous. I don't want to take anything with side effects that potentially affect me more than the illness itself.

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Jasmine Flowers
34 minutes ago, kiaroskuro said:

It's completely unacceptable, and it baffles me that so very few people find it outrageous. I don't want to take anything with side effects that potentially affect me more than the illness itself.

I had the unfortunate realization lately that Cancer could easily be a side effect. And I am very skeptical that all side effects are even listed. 

 

 

Psychiatric drugs that I experienced were riddled terribly with dangerous side effects. Dry eyes and dry mouth is very harmful (and that's not all of them)

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