bare_trees Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 https://www.nola.com/news/nottoway-plantation-fire-photos-video/article_751a7ac8-c670-44cf-8127-62eff2880020.html "Look at the sky turn a hell-fire red, Lord Somebody's house is burning, down, down, down, down" -Jimi Hendrix (I like to think he would approve of my application of those lyrics) Burn them all to the ground. There's something to be said for the ones that strive to teach visitors about the horrors of slavery (see: Whitney Plantation), but to hell with all these plantation weddings and club meetings and corporate retreats and all that b.s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vero Totem Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 While plantations are a sore subject for people, it's important to know about the history of them. Ignorance of history risks repeating it. People in future generations need to know that slavery was commonplace in the Old South and slaves were treated less than human. My parents have taken me on several tours of many historical sites including plantations. The architecture is always stunning and the history is rich. I wouldn't wish the burning of historical buildings no matter how sullied they are by the blood of innocents. It is a way to remember and honor the dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare_trees Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 From a local writer: 32 minutes ago, Vero Totem said: While plantations are a sore subject for people, it's important to know about the history of them. Ignorance of history risks repeating it. People in future generations need to know that slavery was commonplace in the Old South and slaves were treated less than human. My parents have taken me on several tours of many historical sites including plantations. The architecture is always stunning and the history is rich. I wouldn't wish the burning of historical buildings no matter how sullied they are by the blood of innocents. It is a way to remember and honor the dead. I'm glad you were able to learn from them. I don't think that's a reason to keep them around, especially as destinations for weddings and such. I think that's disgusting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vero Totem Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Would you feel the same about Auschwitz? It's been kept as a reminder of history and I wouldn't doubt that there is someone out there who would consider it a hoot to get married at a concentration camp. I'm not condoning the poor taste of having a wedding or a party at a place of suffering, but I still stand firm by my belief that historical landmarks should be preserved so that future generations can learn from the mistakes of their ancestors. Did you know that there are American students who have no idea that there were concentration camps here in the U.S.? Japanese Interment camps were spread across the nation, some in the very state in which I live. The American government wants to erase the history that happened there, but that's a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare_trees Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 23 minutes ago, Vero Totem said: Would you feel the same about Auschwitz? It's been kept as a reminder of history and I wouldn't doubt that there is someone out there who would consider it a hoot to get married at a concentration camp. Yes Edit: I'm also not Polish and would probably defer to Poles on that particular example, though. I still hope they don't have weddings at Auschwitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Mercurial Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Regarding WWII concentration camps, Auschwitz was kept as a memorial to the victims and the horrors committed there. It would be easier for sickos to deny what happened without the evidence on display. I've visited. It's run by a memorial trust, so no, they don't allow anything to happen that would be disrespectful to the dead. However, I have read of at least one wedding that occurred in a concentration camp. According to his memoirs, Geddy Lee's parents were imprisoned in concentration camps during the war, but managed to find each other again after the camps were liberated and married in the Officers' Mess Hall at Bergen-Belsen while they were waiting to get their compensation from the German government and move to Canada to rebuild their lives. That is about the only sort of case I can think of that cannot be considered an insult to the memory of the dead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snao Cone Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 17 hours ago, Sister Mercurial said: According to his memoirs, Geddy Lee's parents were imprisoned in concentration camps during the war, but managed to find each other again after the camps were liberated and married in the Officers' Mess Hall at Bergen-Belsen while they were waiting to get their compensation from the German government and move to Canada to rebuild their lives. That is about the only sort of case I can think of that cannot be considered an insult to the memory of the dead. Yeah that is very different, and at this point in time there are virtually no living people who could have any such connection to those places that make it worth marrying there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snao Cone Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 A key difference between keeping Holocaust concentration camps up for learning purposes is that they are ugly spaces made for suffering and nearly impossible to romanticize. The things you learn from them is how cruel and evil the practices carried out within them were. Plantation homes are mansions, beautiful structures made for cruel people to thrive in for decades. People get married there because they look pretty. We can keep photos of them for that. Maintaining the structure is just wanting to preserve a romanticized version of the Antebellum South. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallieberry Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Snao Cone said: Yeah that is very different, and at this point in time there are virtually no living people who could have any such connection to those places that make it worth marrying there. I can imagine some antisemitic neo-nazi skinhead thinking it would be just great to marry at one of those places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snao Cone Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 46 minutes ago, Olallieberry said: I can imagine some antisemitic neo-nazi skinhead thinking it would be just great to marry at one of those places. They don't have the same connection to the place as people interned there, though, so it can't possibly be justified for them to do anything there. They're just fucking Nazis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 There's also the fact that the Nazis aren't currently in power in Germany right now... the US on the other hand... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fragglerock Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 4 minutes ago, Snao Cone said: Djanglerock Unchained Most-adequately-timely memer in the Midwest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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