Alaska Native Manitou Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 People in the United States became more independent in 2021. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaska Native Manitou Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 Oregon Progressive, Pacific Green Candidate Endorses Democrat in Governor's Race - Independent Political Report Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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daveb Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 That's fair. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lilibulero Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 That's similar to UK. They chose a brain dead white female rather than an Asian man. They're now trying on the Asian man for size. Hope he measures up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaska Native Manitou Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 Cornel West is the 2024 presidential candidate of the People's Party. I expect corporate media to start trying to bury him; & the Democratic Party to scapegoat him for any losses from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Alaska Native Manitou said: Cornel West is the 2024 presidential candidate of the People's Party. I expect corporate media to start trying to bury him; & the Democratic Party to scapegoat him for any losses from now on. He won't be scapegoated because you have to win primaries to get nominated, and you have to be nominated to lose, and you have to lose to be scapegoated. He's not going to win any primaries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AspieAlly613 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Sally said: He won't be scapegoated because you have to win primaries to get nominated, and you have to be nominated to lose, and you have to lose to be scapegoated. He's not going to win any primaries. He seems to be running as a third-party candidate. Not sure if the People's party has primaries, but if they do, he may win them...and then get 1% or 2% of the vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olallieberry Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 He’s already buried, nobody has to “start trying” anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 If William Barber of the Peoples' Party ran, I'd be happy. He wouldn't get anywhere, but he'd be a much "purer" candidate than West, who's a showboat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaska Native Manitou Posted June 17, 2023 Author Share Posted June 17, 2023 West has now switched to the Green Party. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Alaska Native Manitou said: West has now switched to the Green Party. I wonder if that could mean that Barber would run for the Peoples' Party. That would be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaska Native Manitou Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 There's a movement called "No Labels" in the news lately. They say that they're not a political party, yet are registering as such in various states. They say that they have no particular bias, but the people involved seem to be center-right. They're trying to gain publicity, without saying what they actually stand for, or how much 💵 they've raised. Any thoughts? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olallieberry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Center-right? My impression was center-left, but I guess that is center-right from a certain point of view. It's also kind of a snub against recognizing that both sides are not equally extreme or culpable in the bad-faith politics of the Obama-and-beyond era. They in fact are saying what they stand for, and it's "stopping the polarization and just working together like we used to." It's basically a pledge to not engage in the absolutism which prevents government from working. As such, no particular policy platform is attached to that, which I think is going to be a pretty hard sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockblossom Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Ollie415 said: just working together like we used to Really? When was that? The Constitution was ratified in 1789 and the first federal election was held, with G. Washington voted in as President with a unanimous vote. As far as I can tell, that was the first and last time the sides "worked together" for anything. Just 15 years later, the sides were so bitter that Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton actually resorted to "pistols at dawn" to resolve their differences, and Hamilton died. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/duel-alexander-hamilton-and-aaron-burr-1804 It would be nice to say that things at least got more verbal and less lethal after that, but the Civil war proved otherwise. Since then, about the only thing that brought people (temporarily) together was being attacked from the outside - like Pearl Harbor and 9/11 - and only until the outside threat was taken care of. Even during those times there was bitter controversy on domestic issues. Before 24hr TV, internet, and social media, it was easier to ignore the day-to-day doings of Congress and the White House, which may have made it seem like there was more "working together" than was actually happening, especially when news reports glossed over the details. The one thing I notice about all of the Independent/Third Party/Let's-All-Come-Together-and -Sing-Kumbaya groups: They all have a lot of nice-sounding stuff on their websites about civility and unity, and a "DONATE" button somewhere on almost every page. I really dislike both major parties, but I am too experienced (or too cynical) to think any of these groups are the answer. What do I want to see instead? 1. A Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College and the Presidential election decided by popular vote. 2. Ranked choice voting. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olallieberry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rockblossom said: Really? When was that? I don't see how anyone can seriously offer the notion that today is not worse than 10 years ago, or 20, or 30, or at any point in the lifetimes of anyone living. The only thing which I think comes close is 1950s McCarthyism, and even that was temporary, a single-issue matter, and didn't completely disrupt all Congressional and Executive activities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaska Native Manitou Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 There are people so far to the right that to them Joe Manchin looks "center-left" & Obama is "left?" SMH https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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