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Voting for Biden ~It's my only reasonable choice~

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GingerRose

As far as I know right now, I'm going to be voting for Biden. I'm not voting for him because I like him. I feel like I must vote for him because I don't want Trump. Trump's behaviour shows absolute intolerance for people who are not from America, Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslims Americans, and LGBT+ people. I know Biden isn't perfect and he has some values I am against, but he's the best option there is, either I don't vote and risk Trump winning or I vote for Biden. Anyone feel that they are in the same position? What are you going to do? (*I'm not voting for other parties, because it feels like a wasted vote for libertarian, green, or independent*).

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Mackenzie Holiday

Frankly I don’t think a politician with my actual values and priorities would have any chance of getting elected, so I probably wouldn’t waste my vote on one even if they ran. It’s not really a disappointment that Biden doesn’t represent me as well as I’d like because I haven’t had that expectation of a politician in quite a while now. But there are so many people I’d vote for over Trump, that it’s really not a hard choice at all for me to vote for Biden.

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Galactic Turtle

I don't like Biden but it's not like I'm voting for Trump so... *shrugs* 

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Skycaptain

It seems to be an increasing trend in politics that you're not voting for the best candidate, but the least bad 

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Gloomy

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GingerRose
33 minutes ago, Mackenzie Holiday said:

values and priorities would have any chance of getting elected,

True that for me as well. I suppose I am too radical in the eyes of many.

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GingerRose
3 minutes ago, Gloomy said:

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Taking a rocket ship to mars on voting day:

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GingerRose
11 minutes ago, Skycaptain said:

It seems to be an increasing trend in politics that you're not voting for the best candidate, but the least bad 

Oh for sure. 

We've got blehh and blehhhhhhh who shall I pick?

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GingerRose
12 minutes ago, Skycaptain said:

It seems to be an increasing trend in politics that you're not voting for the best candidate, but the least bad 

Old white man or old white man, hard decision.

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GingerRose
36 minutes ago, Mackenzie Holiday said:

it’s really not a hard choice at all for me to vote for Biden.

Yes well I suppose for now I'm never going to get perfect so I might as well just go for him.

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Phoenix the II

[ ] Trump
[ ] Biden
[ ] Independant
[X] Give us better candidates. Or better yet, democracy, instead of this farce.

 

(No a democracy isn't better, minorities will never get their needs met)

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pickles mcgee
58 minutes ago, Mackenzie Holiday said:

But there are so many people I’d vote for over Trump, that it’s really not a hard choice at all for me to vote for Biden.

YES.  I was even disappointed when Obama picked Biden as his running mate, but I would still choose Biden in a heartbeat over Trump.  No contest.

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Phoenix the II

It in the end doesn't matter much who you vote for... 

 

 "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws."

 

It's basically functioning like an oligarchy... 

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Mostly Peaceful Ryan

I am waiting for the debates and Biden's choice in running mate to really make my final decision.

 

The biggest worry I have with Biden is he appears to have early stages of Dementia. I know many are writing it off, but when I look at his recent interviews or the democrat debate. He really was performing poorly, that was reflected in the early polling, it was South Carolina voters that saved him. The debates will let me see more of him, and allow me to determine where he is mentally. Putting someone in office that has Dementia doesn't seem reasonable to me.

 

Another worry I have with Biden is he seems to be changing his policies leaning more to the left. I was very much against Warren and Bernie because of the far left nature of their policies. Biden taking up more of Bernie's stance is going to drive myself and other moderate Democrats away. I know people who are life-long democrats never voting for a republican in their life, who told me if it was between Bernie and Trump they would vote Trump. If it comes down to a vote between a far-left "progressive", I will be voting for the republicans. I know enough to know where those ideas lead, and I know I don't want to go down that road.

 

Biden's running mate really matters. I have heard names like Kiesha Bottoms, Kamala Harris, and Stacey Abrams. I'm not a big fan of Harris or Abrams. I will say if he picks Kiesha Bottoms. I will be giving money to Trumps campaign and voting Trump 100%. I am hoping he will be picking someone I have not heard of yet.

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Phoenix the II
13 minutes ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

against Warren and Bernie because of the far left nature

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Far left? Who? 

 

TFW your left wing is still right... 

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pickles mcgee
33 minutes ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

The biggest worry I have with Biden is he appears to have early stages of Dementia.

Trump's cognitive issues seem much worse.  He is so rambly!  

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Arodash
4 minutes ago, pickles mcgee said:

Trump's cognitive issues seem much worse.  He is so rambly!  

 

 

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Still

All these posts about how people are going to vote for Biden because he's not Trump just highlight how much he sucks.

 

1 hour ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

I know enough to know where those ideas lead, and I know I don't want to go down that road.

The best standards of living in the world is where they lead. What a horrible fate.

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Mostly Peaceful Ryan
38 minutes ago, Phoenix the II said:

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Far left? Who? 

 

TFW your left wing is still right... 

Love this type of argument.Yeah when you compare to Stalin and Lenin, maybe he is on the right. That tends to be because the United States is not a communist country. It is a poor argument I don't need to get to the level of Stalin before it gets bad. I tend to not uses these type of charts as they have no scale and really up to the person who creates it. It is not a good gauge,  I focus on the policy those two have said. Warren seemed to go more left during the campaign to steal Sanders voters, so I'm not even sure where I would actuallu put her. It depends where in the campaign.

 

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30 minutes ago, pickles mcgee said:

Trump's cognitive issues seem much worse.  He is so rambly!  

Totally disagree based on the speeches I have watched and interviews with both candidates so far. But if this is true I am sure we will see Trump's issue in a debate.

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Phoenix the II
3 minutes ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

It is a poor argument I don't need to get to the level of Stalin before it gets bad

Poor argument to associate a left view immediately with Stalin and communism. Sigh.

 

Ugh, the US associates anything that comes near the border of being left, with 

 

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"AHHHHHHHHH COMMUNISTSSSSSS"

 

 

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Phoenix the II
49 minutes ago, pickles mcgee said:

Trump's cognitive issues seem much worse.  He is so rambly!  

His last "urgent" press conference.... 

 

Beyond Cringgeeeeee

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Mostly Peaceful Ryan
11 minutes ago, Still said:

The best standards of living in the world is where they lead. What a horrible fate

Hahaha funny. Going have to agree to disagree, I think based on your many post I have read, you and I will not come to an consensus.

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Arodash

Remember kids if you dont vote for Biden, you aint black.

 

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Mostly Peaceful Ryan
8 minutes ago, Phoenix the II said:

Poor argument to associate a left view immediately with Stalin and communism. Sigh.

 

Ugh, the US associates anything that comes near the border of being left, with 

 

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"AHHHHHHHHH COMMUNISTSSSSSS"

 

 

I uses stalin because he is the most well known. Would you prefer Karl Marx? Just so you are aware you are not providing a good rebuttal, by just attacking someone for being American with no real substance in your post.

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Still
5 minutes ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

Hahaha funny. Going have to agree to disagree, I think based on your many post I have read, you and I will not come to an consensus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Progress_Index

 

Sure seems like the top ten is dominated by countries that have long embraced the kinds of policies Bernie and Warren advocate for 🤔

 

Which, BTW, are not "far left" or "socialist". The only reason Americans call them that is because those terms have lost all meaning for them.

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Arodash
Just now, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

I uses stalin because he is the most well known. Would you prefer Karl Marx? Just so you are aware you are not providing a good rebuttal, by just attacking someone for being American with no real substance in your post.

Seems par for the course on here. Just attack Americans

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Arodash
Just now, Still said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Progress_Index

 

Sure seems like the top ten is dominated by countries that have long embraced the kinds of policies Bernie and Warren advocate for 🤔

 

Which, BTW, are not "far left" or "socialist". The only reason Americans call them that is because those terms have lost all meaning for them.

because wikipedia is totally a valid source. All that "social progress" come at the cost of civil liberties, noooo thanks.

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Arodash
12 minutes ago, Phoenix the II said:

His last "urgent" press conference.... 

 

Beyond Cringgeeeeee

Way less cringe than Biden telling black people they arent black unless they vote for him.

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Mostly Peaceful Ryan
2 minutes ago, Still said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Progress_Index

 

Sure seems like the top ten is dominated by countries that have long embraced the kinds of policies Bernie and Warren advocate for 🤔

 

Which, BTW, are not "far left" or "socialist". The only reason Americans call them that is because those terms have lost all meaning for them.

Again, you and I will not come to a consensus. The countries that are highlighted there I have looked into and I dont want to live in any of them, or a system that works the way they do. I actually find huge flaws in their systems which I don't want to experiance and will not work when applied to the American system. I'm not ill informed on the issues, I disagree with you.

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Phoenix the II
2 minutes ago, Mostly Peaceful Ryan said:

I uses stalin because he is the most well known. Would you prefer Karl Marx? Just so you are aware you are not providing a good rebuttal, by just attacking someone for being American with no real substance.

Again, extreme left again. I'm talking about anything that comes close to crossing into the left border, and the US screams agony. 

 

But hey, you do you. 

 

I hate politics. I will never vote, unless it's directly on legislation/actions. Politicians aren't trustworthy to do what they represented.

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