ThatGoofyGuy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Today, I listened to a broadcast on the radio about Big Pharma. Near the end, they described how marketers are redefining certain diseases in order to sell new drugs. For example, according to a guy who wrote a book about it, they tried to re-label depressive people as bipolar, because, the drugs used to treat bipolarity are more lucrative. The interviewer asked him what will be the next target of this marketing. His answer was that the biggest success of Big Pharma was Viagra, so they are looking for something similar to sell. In his opinion, the next "fashion" thing to be marketed will probably be... female hypoactive sexual desire disorder ! I don't know if this Mikkel Borch-Jacobsen is a valid source, but I think it's worth mentionning it here. You can listen to the whole thing here, but this is in French : De la plante au medicament - Soigner ou vendre Link to post Share on other sites
Zagadka Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 They'll target everyone they possibly can for everything they possibly can. Find a doctor that wants to minimize meds. There is a website (I completely forget what it is) that shows what doctors are accepting money from pharmaceutical companies that is a good guide. Link to post Share on other sites
timewarp Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Try writing a business plan for it. You'll soon figure out that it's not profitable. Link to post Share on other sites
ThatGoofyGuy Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, timewarp said: Try writing a business plan for it. You'll soon figure out that it's not profitable. I red a "definition" of female HSDD, and it seems so vague that you can label any woman who doesn't desire her partner anymore and feels bad about it. I think this lots of allosexual women might match the criteria too. Link to post Share on other sites
AspieAlly613 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The solution is simple, but not necessarily easy: Don't spend ridiculous amounts of money on garbage you don't need. I say "simple" because it can be described in only eleven words. I say "not necessarily easy" because it is not necessarily easy to figure out whether or not you need something. The autism community has an analogous issue. Link to post Share on other sites
timewarp Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, ThatGoofyGuy said: I red a "definition" of female HSDD, and it seems so vague that you can label any woman who doesn't desire her partner anymore and feels bad about it. I think this lots of allosexual women might match the criteria too. But that is *not* asexuality, the DSM-V is very clear on this. So by the very DSM-V definition, asexual women would not be targeted by the pharma industry. Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of Cydonia Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Female hypoactive sexual desire disorder isn't asexuality. And asexuality is both little known and rare that I can't see it being profitable at all to be targeted, anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
ThatGoofyGuy Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 My concern was about asexual being labelled HSDD and given unecessary drugs by psychatrists. It seems, that HSDD is about people with low desire, and who feel bad about it. A fragile person who's told by people around her that having no desire isn't natural might feel bad about it. Does the real problem comes from her lack of desire or from her social environnement ? If the problem comes from the environnement, is this a syndrome at all ? Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I have had targeted adds for HSDD show up on my Facebook, it was around the time I was posting a lot for ace week. Not sure if that was part of it, or it was just a coincidence and I was targeted because of my age (I’m 39) but I could see there being a big push for it. I do recognize that for people who do suffer from HSDD that it can be distressing, and that treatments would no doubt be welcomed amongst that group. I could also see such drugs being pushed on people who fall short of the criteria for the sake of profit. Link to post Share on other sites
Expedition Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 7:44 PM, Zagadka said: Find a doctor that wants to minimize meds. Th Plenty in the NHS. Link to post Share on other sites
KathyHoh Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 2:11 PM, timewarp said: Try writing a business plan for it. You'll soon figure out that it's not profitable. Yes. This is the positive side of being a minority. Recently I was feeling down for being minority and you just made my day Link to post Share on other sites
griffinej5 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 21 hours ago, AceMissBehaving said: I have had targeted adds for HSDD show up on my Facebook, it was around the time I was posting a lot for ace week. Not sure if that was part of it, or it was just a coincidence and I was targeted because of my age (I’m 39) but I could see there being a big push for it. I do recognize that for people who do suffer from HSDD that it can be distressing, and that treatments would no doubt be welcomed amongst that group. I could also see such drugs being pushed on people who fall short of the criteria for the sake of profit. I’ll get targeted ads for HSDD stuff after posting anything mentioning being ace. I’ve never posted it on my page, but I’ve mentioned it in some groups I’m in. Link to post Share on other sites
everywhere and nowhere Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 11:05 PM, Knight of Cydonia said: Female hypoactive sexual desire disorder isn't asexuality. And asexuality is both little known and rare that I can't see it being profitable at all to be targeted, anyways. The only real difference between asexuality and HSDD is recognising one as pathological and the latter as not. For me it's a pyrrhic victory for the asexual community. After all, identifying as asexual is always an individual decision. So whether someone may "count" as "asexual" or "HSDD patient" really hinges on one factor: whether they have heard of asexuality. There are many people who could be considered asexual, but they have never heard of it, so instead they are labelled as "having HSDD". It's a very harmful double standard because it creates an exception for asexuals: they are allowed to not desire sex, but everyone else isn't. This is much too little. Everyone should be allowed to not desire sex, regardless of how they might identify. We should do away with sexual pressure and assumption - and only then see if people are "distressed" about not desiring sex. Link to post Share on other sites
everywhere and nowhere Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 P.S. From an article posted by @Homer in the World Watch subforum (Interview With an Asexual Clarifying What I Got Wrong About Asexuality) : Quote For some people, a low libido causes actual dysphoria. But I feel that there are many for whom the dysphoria is more social. They're not sad they're not having that much sex, they're only worried that other people think it's wrong. If they didn't feel that social pressure, they might not have any stress about their low or non-libidos at all. Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/23/2020 at 8:59 PM, griffinej5 said: I’ll get targeted ads for HSDD stuff after posting anything mentioning being ace. I’ve never posted it on my page, but I’ve mentioned it in some groups I’m in. Yeah I had a feeling it probably wasn’t a coincidence, I blocked the ad so not seen it again since, but suspect I’d have kept seeing a similar pattern Link to post Share on other sites
N8ty L3asT Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hello!! I’m moving this thread from Questions about Asexuality to Philosophy, Politics and Science. -N8LV3y Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.