Who allowed this to exist??

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Jade Cross said:

9 hours ago, GatsbyGirl said:

I honestly dont see how this is sexualized cause a kid is not gonna think it is.

Bingo

 

Kids will mostly likely learn and dance the song as well

See, that's the problem!!  as someone with kids I can see what it's doing *to* kids 😧 (I just mean the video itself, not the toys!)

 

Adults take these things, and sexualise them (it's a very overtly sexualized dance but aces and other adults who don't have dirty minds probably won't *see* the sexualization) and then your child innocently tries to copy it.

 

So what happens is your 7 year old then tries to dress like this, in the nappy and the little crop-top.. She will draw on her stomach drying to make the tattoos, and will try to mimic the moves with the hip-thrusting and stuff, grinding her hips around, thinking it's 'cute' because that's what the cartoon implies to someone who isn't sexualized. This is... so so so bad (because you have to be quite sexualized to understand how sexual it is!)

 

That's why when I answered you before (even though I was saying it in a funny manner) I would actually have to 'punish' my kids if I caught them watching this (by banning them from YT for the day).. to *protect* them from this encouraged sexualisation of children. It's rampant in cartoons (mostly YT ones) these days. (Ps it wouldn't actually get to the point of me needing to ban them because they're not allowed to watch random things on YT without me checking first!!)

 

Yes I know people used to say that about Barbie, but kids can tell Barbie is an adult woman with breasts so it's different, they can tell Barbie is a 'grown up'. But when you show a child a *child-like* being dressed in a provocative manner (very hot for people with a certain fetish - the tattoos indicate the person is an adult, though wearing nappies), fluttering their eyelashes, thrusting their hips etc.. a child starts mimicking those actions because it's a *child* (or what looks like a child) doing it. That's what's so scary and dangerous about all this!! 😧

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of a pooping unicorn is a great idea for a kids toy - it's funny!!! And I'm fine with pooping unicorns and many other things (and I mean, my 7 year old is watching Venom right now - one of her favourite movies. So my kids aren't over-sheltered)

 

..It's just the overtly encouraged sexualisation that's the problem. The adults who made this know it's very sexy to some, and know kids will try to dress like that and mimic the dance moves, and that's the issue. That's..  terrifying, as someone who has daughters. :c

 

(edit; and I'm someone who let's my kids wear my makeup and dress up in my clothes!! I let my kids cut up old clothes to make costumes etc out of them It's just when you have someone with tattoos, wearing a nappy and a crop top (the little top shows off the hips, the tattoo, and the nappy), thrusting their hips and singing about pooping themselves..  that's when it crosses the line because your child will be mimicking an overtly adult fetish thinking it's cute) 😧

[Guest]

@Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) And then there are messed up people who are attracted to children and I just don't understand why parents are okay with not only letting their children dress or act in a way that is understood by adults to be sexualized but are actually encouraging it. I remember being a 12 year old in a one-piece swimsuit and seeing 5 year olds wearing bikinis and thinking that was strange.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Moon Spirit ☽ said:

@Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) And then there are messed up people who are attracted to children and I just don't understand why parents are okay with not only letting their children dress or act in a way that is understood by adults to be sexualized but are actually encouraging it. I remember being a 12 year old in a one-piece swimsuit and seeing 5 year olds wearing bikinis and thinking that was strange.

Two words: 'Dance Moms'

 

Y_Y

[Anthracite_Impreza]

@Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?), you said what I wanted to but couldn't articulate. Also @Moon Spirit ☽, yes. Paedophiles are a thing whether we like it or not and the sexualisation of kids is just making it easier for them.

[Whore*of*Mensa]

Guys you are so very very wrong to blame kids behaviour for paedophiles. 

 

It doesn't matter whether a child is in a bikini thrusting their hips, they're NOT a sexual being and any adult that sees them as such is WRONG. This is every kind of victim blaming. Yes I get it's frightening to see a child behaving in what you think is a sexual manner because we're all so conditioned to think that it's the victim's responsibility not to attract 'the wrong kind of man'

 

The problem is the sexualisation of women and kids. Not women and kids. If you think that things like this cause sexual abuse then you don't understand sexual abuse...Again, I know I always say this but look at the research...

[Abigail Rose]

This kind of viewing material has been around for a long time. It is fair to argue it's audience. It almost seems like it was made for teens but sold to preschoolers.  

[Lord Jade Cross]

3 hours ago, Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said:

See, that's the problem!!  as someone with kids I can see what it's doing *to* kids 😧 (I just mean the video itself, not the toys!)

 

Adults take these things, and sexualise them (it's a very overtly sexualized dance but aces and other adults who don't have dirty minds probably won't *see* the sexualization) and then your child innocently tries to copy it.

 

So what happens is your 7 year old then tries to dress like this, in the nappy and the little crop-top.. She will draw on her stomach drying to make the tattoos, and will try to mimic the moves with the hip-thrusting and stuff, grinding her hips around, thinking it's 'cute' because that's what the cartoon implies to someone who isn't sexualized. This is... so so so bad (because you have to be quite sexualized to understand how sexual it is!)

 

That's why when I answered you before (even though I was saying it in a funny manner) I would actually have to 'punish' my kids if I caught them watching this (by banning them from YT for the day).. to *protect* them from this encouraged sexualisation of children. It's rampant in cartoons (mostly YT ones) these days. (Ps it wouldn't actually get to the point of me needing to ban them because they're not allowed to watch random things on YT without me checking first!!)

 

Yes I know people used to say that about Barbie, but kids can tell Barbie is an adult woman with breasts so it's different, they can tell Barbie is a 'grown up'. But when you show a child a *child-like* being dressed in a provocative manner (very hot for people with a certain fetish - the tattoos indicate the person is an adult, though wearing nappies), fluttering their eyelashes, thrusting their hips etc.. a child starts mimicking those actions because it's a *child* (or what looks like a child) doing it. That's what's so scary and dangerous about all this!! 😧

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of a pooping unicorn is a great idea for a kids toy - it's funny!!! And I'm fine with pooping unicorns and many other things (and I mean, my 7 year old is watching Venom right now - one of her favourite movies. So my kids aren't over-sheltered)

 

..It's just the overtly encouraged sexualisation that's the problem. The adults who made this know it's very sexy to some, and know kids will try to dress like that and mimic the dance moves, and that's the issue. That's..  terrifying, as someone who has daughters. :c

 

(edit; and I'm someone who let's my kids wear my makeup and dress up in my clothes!! I let my kids cut up old clothes to make costumes etc out of them It's just when you have someone with tattoos, wearing a nappy and a crop top (the little top shows off the hips, the tattoo, and the nappy), thrusting their hips and singing about pooping themselves..  that's when it crosses the line because your child will be mimicking an overtly adult fetish thinking it's cute) 😧

Hmm I can see what you mean. I guess I got used to kids mimicking new fads that I simply thought "its just kids being kids. No harm there"

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Jade Cross said:

Hmm I can see what you mean. I guess I got used to kids mimicking new fads that I simply thought "its just kids being kids. No harm there"

Yes exactly I think that's part of the danger!! So many parents go "oh that's what kids do" and if the parent themselves isn't super sexualised (like say they're quite naive, low libido, hasn't explored much porn etc) they may not even realise what's inherently sexual in what their child is being exposed to 😧 Whereas me, having spent so much time on fetlife etc, I can very clearly when something aimed at kids yet has a very strong sexual message and may be attempting to encourage kids to mimic it. One of the ways to encourage this is to add a cute song and a jingle, and to make the characters look very childlik; This encourages kids to copy it.. and in a situation like this that's not a good thing!! But that's the trap. It's disguised intentionally so neither kids nor many parents actually realise what's happening

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

 

 

The problem is the sexualisation of women and kids. Not women and kids. 

Oh yes that's what we are saying!! Its the fact that adults are sexualizing them (and intentionally creating material to sexualized them) that's the issue!! A child is innocent and doesn't understand, yet predatory adults DO understand, and create this kind of material knowing kids will mimic it. There's a MASSIVE issue with it on YT right now that YT is still trying to combat but they're kind of failing. Like um.. for example kids copying this kind of thing and filming it, and putting on YT. The pedos then put the vids into public playlists called like 'nappy girls' and share them among groups of paedophiles operating online. I'm not blaming the kids though, I'm blaming the sick adults who create this stuff in an active effort to sexualize children who dont understand any better!!!

 

And with the bikini thing, again it's never the childs fault. But a parent (who may not be very sexual themselves so doesn't understand) may allow their child to wear a bikini, not understanding how certain other adults will 'view' that :c Like the Dance Moms show where they dressed their little daughters in lingerie and had them doing a sexy dance. They thought it was all cute and sweet, and got confused when adult men were leering at the children!!! It's not the children's fault, they didn't understand. It's the fault of the adults who would dare look at a child in 'that way' and even encourage it :c And there are soooooo many more adults out there like that than we could ever understand. 

 

my phone is 1% so I'm sorry this is rushed, I wanted to post before it craps out. I'm sorry if I gave the impression I was blaming the kids, I wasn't intending that at all!!

[Guest]

What @Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said.

 

Though I've always been asexual and can still identify what is viewed as overtly sexual (wearing tons of makeup and showing a lot of skin both seem really obvious to me) so it is kind of hard to imagine a sexual person not knowing since they are attracted to other people, but then again I guess it could still happen somehow. I think I've been hyper-aware of how someone can be perceived for how they dress because I personally don't want that kind of attention.

[Anthracite_Impreza]

Yes it's the same mentality as victim blaming, but if a behaviour increases the chances of a kid being snatched, why wouldn't you want to reduce it? Especially such a morally dodgy area as encouraging kids to dress as/act like adults waaaaaay before their time? Whether we like it or not, kids in bikinis are gonna attract more attention from certain people, just as a woman staggering home alone is. It's always the perpetrator's fault when they assault someone, but taking precautions is simply the sensible thing to do. Blame it on me being a practical aspie if you like, but it's the same reason I'll always drive my mates to their front door and wait until I see them get in the house, then text them to tell them we got home safe too.

[Guest]

@Anthracite_Impreza I'm not entirely certain that dressing children that way makes it any more likely that something will happen to them, since you can be dressed however and still be sexually assaulted. They might not necessarily be targeted any more than any other child, but someone having their child dress or behave in a sexualized way makes it seem like they're trying to encourage perverts.

[Yeast]

10 hours ago, CBC said:

... have no words.

Welcome to Indiana! You can burn the cross here but you can't burn the flag...

[Grumpy Alien]

Looks a lot like a ridiculous toy from the last series of The Apprentice

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

Guys you are so very very wrong to blame kids behaviour for paedophiles. 

 

It doesn't matter whether a child is in a bikini thrusting their hips, they're NOT a sexual being and any adult that sees them as such is WRONG. This is every kind of victim blaming. Yes I get it's frightening to see a child behaving in what you think is a sexual manner because we're all so conditioned to think that it's the victim's responsibility not to attract 'the wrong kind of man'

 

The problem is the sexualisation of women and kids. Not women and kids. If you think that things like this cause sexual abuse then you don't understand sexual abuse...Again, I know I always say this but look at the research...

Adults make it sexual cause thats what they associate it with. Why is it the kids fault that people think of them now sexually? Its just some moves to a kid. A crop top is not sexual, its a nice top for when its hot, children in shorts doesnt make them a slut or tart, they are dressing comfortably. The adults who think they are that or are dressed inappropriate should be the problem. They normalize pedophilia that way as well. People should be calling adults who think that and not the innocent kids. Nobody also calls anyone out when a boy runs around without a top either. 

 

Also if they had a belly button nobody would say anything but since they use a heart instead its a big issue as well. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said:

So what happens is your 7 year old then tries to dress like this, in the nappy and the little crop-top.. She will draw on her stomach drying to make the tattoos, and will try to mimic the moves with the hip-thrusting and stuff, grinding her hips around, thinking it's 'cute' because that's what the cartoon implies to someone who isn't sexualized. This is... so so so bad (because you have to be quite sexualized to understand how sexual it is!)

Its a button not a tattoo, you press the button for them to poop the slime so it just doesnt come out and its just a neat design of the belly button to be a heart. That is all. 

 

 

Also I am a very dirtied minded person, I have no limits but this a kids toy that adults are sexualizing. 

[Guest]

Pedophiles need to be held accountable not the kids. Its time you all grew up and called the creepy uncle out and not the kids. 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, GatsbyGirl said:

Its a button not a tattoo, you press the button for them to poop the slime so it just doesnt come out and its just a neat design of the belly button to be a heart. That is all. 

I'm talking about the video clip of the child-like creatures dancing sexually in nappies. Not the toy.

 

13 minutes ago, GatsbyGirl said:

Pedophiles need to be held accountable not the kids. Its time you all grew up and called the creepy uncle out and not the kids

Another person who didn't actually read our comments. We ARE calling out the 'creepy uncle' ie the people who made this video (and similar videos) intentionally sexualizing childlike beings to a jingly tune that kids will innocently try to replicate (so you end up with a young child doing a sexualized dance wearing nappies with a little heart drawn on their belly, which is what the adults intended and wanted; not the kids fault but the fault of adults who made that happen).

 

These adults are doing it *intentionally* in an active attempt to sexualize innocent children who are just innocently doing what kids do. It *needs* to be stopped. YT itself has acknowledged the issue on multiple occasions and has gone to great lengths to try to put a stop to this, but it's *still* continuing.

 

Again this is not about the children (other than to protect them), it's about wanting to stop the nasty adults attempting to sexualize children through the use of sexualized childlike beings which are then aimed at young children.

 

I thought we were all very clear about that but people seem to be confused over what we are saying.

 

Edit: it's a form of grooming. Show the kid childlike beings grinding and thrusting their hips while wearing nappies, with their bellies exposed. That will make the child think that's an okay and fun dance to do. Which is EXACTLY what the predators want. It is in no way the childs fault (no grooming is), it's the ADULTS who actively intended for the kid to start dancing like that who need to be held accountable and stopped! The adults are the ones who see the dancing as sexual, the child only understands that it's a fun dance which cute creatures showed them how to do.

[Whore*of*Mensa]

18 hours ago, Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said:

That's why when I answered you before (even though I was saying it in a funny manner) I would actually have to 'punish' my kids if I caught them watching this (by banning them from YT for the day).. to *protect* them from this encouraged sexualisation of children. It's rampant in cartoons (mostly YT ones) these days. (Ps it wouldn't actually get to the point of me needing to ban them because they're not allowed to watch random things on YT without me checking first!!)

 

I guess this is what worries me - by 'punishing' the child you are making them feel ashamed of what they're doing with their bodies (copying a dance or whatever) and that's going to have an effect on them. And if you were to explain why you don't like it, you'd have to say - because it's sexual, and sexual is bad...I personally never wanted to go down that route with my daughter. Nor to tell her that if she behaved in a certain way she'd be in danger. I don't think it's right to socialise kids (especially girls) to believe that they're responsible for sexual assault. 

 

13 hours ago, Anthracite_Impreza said:

Yes it's the same mentality as victim blaming, but if a behaviour increases the chances of a kid being snatched, why wouldn't you want to reduce it? Especially such a morally dodgy area as encouraging kids to dress as/act like adults waaaaaay before their time? Whether we like it or not, kids in bikinis are gonna attract more attention from certain people, just as a woman staggering home alone is. It's always the perpetrator's fault when they assault someone, but taking precautions is simply the sensible thing to do. Blame it on me being a practical aspie if you like, but it's the same reason I'll always drive my mates to their front door and wait until I see them get in the house, then text them to tell them we got home safe too.

I have absolute sympathy with this approach, and yes I do try to stay safe - BUT, in reality, most sexual abuse is not by a stranger but by someone known to the child - it's not about the child attracting attention, it's more about them coming into contact with a paedophile. Same with adults - the hooded stranger grabbing you on the street is actually extremely rare. That's where we think the danger is when in reality it can be much closer to home!

 

When my daughter was young I actually had resources from the NSPCC on how to keep kids safe and I used them with her - she had a colouring book all about things like 'nobody should ask you to keep secrets' and other stuff like that - the point being that you can teach kids to recognise dangers without making it about them/what they're wearing..

14 hours ago, Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said:

Oh yes that's what we are saying!! Its the fact that adults are sexualizing them (and intentionally creating material to sexualized them) that's the issue!! A child is innocent and doesn't understand, yet predatory adults DO understand, and create this kind of material knowing kids will mimic it. There's a MASSIVE issue with it on YT right now that YT is still trying to combat but they're kind of failing. Like um.. for example kids copying this kind of thing and filming it, and putting on YT. The pedos then put the vids into public playlists called like 'nappy girls' and share them among groups of paedophiles operating online. I'm not blaming the kids though, I'm blaming the sick adults who create this stuff in an active effort to sexualize children who dont understand any better!!!

 

So, this is giving me a better idea of why you think this is so dangerous, because I was still not sure why kids copying adults was so much of an issue. Are you saying that adults are producing this stuff so that kids will film themselves copying it, and then using it as pornographic material??

 

If so then yes I see the problem with it. 

 

I'm not sure how it works over there with TV, also (now I do feel old) when my daughter was little our TV did not connect to the internet, and I always refused to pay for satellite or cable TV - so she had very limited choice of programmes to watch! There were kid's programmes on for about 2 hours per day on the terrestrial TV channels, which meant she never spent that long in front of a screen. I used to buy old videos from the market so we could watch films...(they were very cheap because nobody watched videos any more, even back then!)

 

So this is a world I didn't really deal with before she was maybe 10 years old..I've never heard of YT. I didn't know adults could get kids to produce content for them. But, aren't there other ways to keep kids safe rather than ban them from watching/copying? Like saying it's dangerous to share photos or videos online, or let anyone know who you are? Nowadays, kids get told this all the time, in school and at home. 

 

I agree all of this is really scary. I just think it's important not to shame kids, but it's obviously a difficult balance to keep, between keeping them safe and letting them be themselves. I don't envy parents dealing with this kind of stuff nowadays. 

[Skycaptain]

If My Little Pony fans are Bronies, are Poopsie Slime fans going to be Brownies? 😋😋

[Guest]

@GatsbyGirl There isn't anyone participating in this discussion who has blamed children once. You must not have actually read any of our responses because it's very clear that we see the adults sexualizing the children as the problem.

[Eva Blue]

This thread has gotten a lot darker then I originally intended. I just wanted to bash a creepy toy for a little while damn...

 

But yeah, to clarify @Whore*of*Mensa YT means "Youtube" and I was reading about the problems they were having with "childrens content" where ads were being flashed directly into the eyes of babies (which is illegal), strange seemingly "child friendly" content that had such friendly titles as "spiderman impregnates Elsa from frozen" or "the Mickey mouse gang grinds Peppa pig into sausage". The worst (in my opinion) was the gymnast girl channels. Normal girls doing the splits, jumping on trampolines and dancing, where the abysmal comments section was devoted to how attractive these little girls were. Not to mention that one of these channels was operated BY a creepy old man who'd paw at the girls and push out content for these predators (literally grooming these kids who just want to be YouTube stars).

 

That's why I think some people are so up in arms about these toys. It's on a platform that already isn't doing anything to shelter kids from harmful content that will mess up their minds, and now all those bad things (strange content, advertising, sexual undertones...I mean, come on! A "My humps" parody?) are wrapped up in one toy, ready to normalize all that. And good lord, don't EVER let a child look up fanart of any toy they like! Its guaranteed to have porn of it. It kinda is a nightmare to raise children rn, but a good rule of thumb is to monitor your kids, have open dialogue with them with what they've seen and for gods sakes just install YouTube kids! lol

[Guest]

10 hours ago, GatsbyGirl said:

Pedophiles need to be held accountable not the kids. Its time you all grew up and called the creepy uncle out and not the kids. 

@Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) I apologize for this. I wrote it in a fit due to past experiences.

 

In my opinion I do not find the video sexualizing anything as I believe it is not sexual until you make it out to be.

I respect your opinion and I will not continue to argue further. 

[Whore*of*Mensa]

1 hour ago, Eva Blue said:

The worst (in my opinion) was the gymnast girl channels. Normal girls doing the splits, jumping on trampolines and dancing, where the abysmal comments section was devoted to how attractive these little girls were. Not to mention that one of these channels was operated BY a creepy old man who'd paw at the girls and push out content for these predators (literally grooming these kids who just want to be YouTube stars).

The thing is, this kind of shows how some men will sexualise anything. My sister used to teach gymnastics to kids, before the internet was invented! They did get men turning up to film or photograph them, and have to ban them when they had nothing to do with the kids and were just there to drool over them. But nobody ever suggested that little girls should get banned from doing gymnastics, or wearing leotards...

 

I don't have the solution but I don't think that stopping kids doing stuff is it. 

 

Also, thanks for explaining - I have heard of youtube haha!

[Guest]

I just love that we're in 2020 and someone decided a parody of My Humps by Black Eyed Peas (released in 2005, BTW) would be the ideal way to appeal to kids.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

I guess this is what worries me - by 'punishing' the child you are making them feel ashamed of what they're doing with their bodies

I clarified in my PS that it wouldn't get to that point because they're not actually allowed to watch random crap on YT anyway, I check everything previously!! However, they do know they aren't allowed to watch random stuff (it's dangerous) and know they get banned from the comp for the day if I catch them trying to sneakily watch something they shouldn't be. One must be responsible with their kids viewing on YT because there's some really dangerous stuff on there Y_Y (bit different for you as your kid is a teen but with little kids one has to be super careful!!)

 

7 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

Are you saying that adults are producing this stuff so that kids will film themselves copying it, and then using it as pornographic material??

 

Urgh yeah - kids film themselves doing... almost anything... and put it on YT. And there's this massive group of very dedicated paedophiles who hunt out the dances etc (especially stuff like this) and put it into playlists to share with each other. And I mean, there's just the fact too that for your kids own safety, they can't be encouraged to dress and dance like this. If they do it at school, they'll get in trouble, and you as the parent will get in trouble, and other parents will question what you've been showing them, and it's just... it's not safe. For so many reasons.

 

7 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

I didn't know adults could get kids to produce content for them

One dad was letting his little girls film themselves while they crawl around sucking dummies (pacifiers), and sometimes he'd suck dummies too. They made heaps of vids about it. They'd call it "bad babies" and "freak family" and stuff and sometimes they'd all fight over the pacifiers,  so one girl would snatch her dads dummy (pacifier) and he'd pretend to cry like a baby etc. I wonder if the dad was justv super naive or something, but anyway YT clocked on that the pedos were having a field-day with the vids and ended up having to ban the family from YT. Only thing is the pedos are still re-uploading their vids for their playlists using identifiable terms like "little girl sucks her daddy's........" and stuff like that, WTF????? And these two girls were just innocently crawling around sucking on dummies (pacifiers) ..They were like, 6 and 9, but they thought it was just a fun game they got to play. Now they're very publicly pedo-fodder :c it's so sad and that's just one of thousands of cases.

 

7 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

But, aren't there other ways to keep kids safe rather than ban them from watching/copying? Like saying it's dangerous to share photos or videos online, or let anyone know who you are? Nowadays, kids get told this all the time, in school and at home. 

 

There are a lot of things that are legitimately just bad for kids minds to be exposed to. Even for non-sexual reasons, just because it's mind-rot and created intentionally to dumb them down, so one does have to be very careful of what they let their kids watch.

 

I used to watch My Little Pony back in the early 90s and back then it was a pretty wholesome show with lovely drawing, a moral outcome to every story, and the stories themselves were always pretty well thought-out. Anyway holy crap I bought my kids a modern My Little Pony DVD assuming it would be the same and ....it's really changed. The ponies were just squealing and spazzing and drawn badly too, and they all turned on a new pony because she looked different (she was a zebra). They were scared of her because of how she looked, and then thought she kidnapped their friend so kind of ganged up and went on a witch hunt. Then at the end, their friend came out of the new ponies hut and was like "oh yeah she's my friend she's teaching me magic" and all the pony's were like "oh yay you're alive that's great yay" AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE FRIKKEN SHOW. Not even a cliche line about not judging a book by it's cover or anything 😧 The entire group of ponies turned on the new one because she looked different, they judged her, they bullied her.. heck they were going to cast her out of the village..  and the show didn't even suggest that any of this was bad or wrong of dangerous. The ponies never apologized to the new girl or anything!!!  This is frikken mob mentality, the kind of thing that got women (and men!!) burned at the stake hundreds of years ago. But the show passed the behaviour off as normal, even warranted, because their friend was missing and the new pony was strange-looking (and she was a zebra which kind of suggests she was black soooo....) Urgh. That is sick. It's not really anything to do with the topic at hand, but it's one of the reasons you have to be so careful of what little kids watch. I explained to my girls of course that what the ponies did was wrong and they should have just asked the new pony if she'd seen their friend, and that it's wrong to hate someone because of how they look, and that the ponies should have apologised to the new girl at least... and they've never watched the show again because I got rid of the DVD 😕

 

But yeah one has to set viewing boundaries when it comes to YT especially (for young kids I mean). For many different reasons, not just because of the sexual stuff. I mean there's channels there where people put live puppies, kittens, etc into a cage with anacondas and call it "feeding my pet snake" etc and they get eaten alive... and that stuff often comes up on the damned home page because kids like videos about snakes and lizards etc Y_Y Sure a snake eating a mouse in wild situation is all good, that's nature, but putting puppies in the cage with the snake that the owners have starved??? That's... not natural :c I could give a million obscene examples of the stuff kids can stumble across if they start watching videos you haven't checked first, and that's why one needs a boundary system in place where they know they will be banned from yt for the day if they're caught watching stuff you haven't checked first!!!

 

7 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

I just think it's important not to shame kids, but it's obviously a difficult balance to keep, between keeping them safe and letting them be themselves. I don't envy parents dealing with this kind of stuff nowadays. 

I'm pretty sure we are on the same page!! Urgh I just rambled for so long Y_Y

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Whore*of*Mensa said:

The thing is, this kind of shows how some men will sexualise anything. My sister used to teach gymnastics to kids, before the internet was invented! They did get men turning up to film or photograph them, and have to ban them when they had nothing to do with the kids and were just there to drool over them. But nobody ever suggested that little girls should get banned from doing gymnastics, or wearing leotards...

 

I don't have the solution but I don't think that stopping kids doing stuff is it. 

 

Also, thanks for explaining - I have heard of youtube haha!

It's not so much that some men will sexualize anything I don't think, it's just well-known (and always has been) that certain men (and some women too) ....get off on watching little girls spread their legs open :c Same with the kids beauty pageants etc.. we all know there are adults who get off on seeing those little girls sexualized, slathered in makeup, to look like adults. :c

 

This...attraction, they have for children is so extreme that many of them want it recognised as a legit sexual orientation now. They even call themselves MAPs (minor attracted person) because they think the term 'pedophile' makes it sound like a philia (WHICH IT IS) but to them that's inaccurate. It's no different in a way than a straight man getting off from watching adult women doing gymnastics..  except these men are attracted to innocent children Y_Y

 

And no the girls shouldn't be banned from doing gymnastics (or beauty pageants if they want to do them I guess), BUT they should be protected from pedos. And that's where it becomes.. complicated, especially in this digital age where pedos have instant access to the videos uploaded of girls doing gymnastics or whatever. It's just a very deep, dark, scary, complicated rabbit hole and there are... so, so many paedophiles out there. 

 

Someone made a comment before about it being wrong to 'normalise pedophilia' (something like that)... But I think for our kids safety we NEED to 'normalize' it in that we need to be aware that it's a constant and daily threat and do everything in our power to protect our kids from it (as well as from all the other awful stuff available on the internet with the click of a button!!)

 

3 hours ago, GatsbyGirl said:

In my opinion I do not find the video sexualizing anything as I believe it is not sexual until you make it out to be.

I mean, the fact that it's a parody of "my humps" should be a first indication, one would think??

 

[Marrow]

This looks like top tier fetish bait.

[Gloomy]

If I was drunk or high when I watched it I might have laughed at it. But yeah that was pretty weird.

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8 hours ago, Pan Ficto. (on hiatus?) said:

I mean, the fact that it's a parody of "my humps" should be a first indication, one would think??

Have no idea what that is. Parodies generally tend to mock or just borrow the artists style as well.