Galactic Turtle Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Hello humans. The question is in the topic title! I figured this could be a convenient reference for people to learn about various perspectives. What does being a [INSERT GENDER HERE] mean to you? What does being a [INSERT SEX HERE] mean to you? For me, being a woman means as I go about the world I am perceived as someone with a female body and with that comes the cultural expectations placed on women regardless of whether I choose to follow those expectations or not. For me, being a female means I have a female body. Link to post Share on other sites
letusdeleteouraccounts Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I guess for me being a guy means that people expect me to be this specific person that I just wasn’t meant to be. People aren’t going to understand when I’m finally comfortable being who I am, expression wise, and they’re going to criticize me for not conforming but it’s just a journey that I’ll have to get used to Link to post Share on other sites
abandoned-account Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I feel odd with this because I have a lot of disgust towards having a female body with breasts and a uterus, but on the social/psychological aspect I just like to think of myself as just... me. Not a woman, not a man, at least by how society defines them. Yet at the same time I don't feel dysphoric enough to officially identify as non-binary. I still use female pronouns and such, and I believe my gender should be nothing more than a simple identifier of my body type (even if I hate that body to some degree). Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Jade Cross Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 . Link to post Share on other sites
ColeHW34 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Being nonbinary to me means not in the american or any version of stereotypes of the binary. Plain and simple. Other than that I'm unsure what to say. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea KF Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Trying to answer this messed with my mind a bit😊 I'm probably being percieved as a man by others and that means following a lot of stereotypes I don't like and having certain interests, some of which I like. Agender? I have to try it! For me, being male is having a male body and genitals. I definitely don't like having that. It's acceptable at best. Female? I have to try it! Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am a... wait, I'm nothing! Or I'm agender... but I'm definitely not a gender... I mean, I'm me? Seriously though, being agender is... no, precisely, it isn't '-' It's about what I'm not. I'm me and me isn't gender-able. But there are still feelings behind it. It's still important. Because gender is so alien to me, it's painful when I'm associated with one. Exactly the thing about people sticking you in a box you don't like. The only difference is that it's not that the box is wrong, it's that the existence of boxes is wrong. So there's still dysphoria and all that nice stuff~ About my s-... NO I REFUSE TO CALL MYSELF SOMETHING WITH ''SEX'' IN IT oh sorry that was a reflex I assume you get the point I simply loathe it and will do everything to have it gone~ Link to post Share on other sites
thyristor Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 As a traindriver and activist I feel like a traindriver and activist. Honestly, I have never been discriminated in my life for being a woman and have never refrained from activities because they were typically for guys. I only realized that women might be discriminated from hearing about it from media, but I also realized that I have been a very lucky person all through my life [even for living in Germany and Sweden]. If you asked me today whether I would chose female if I could chose my sex, I'd say female, mostly for the sake of not bothering to change, rather than because I'd identify with female more than with male. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 It means being something that people can't understand so keeping it to myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Sarah-Sylvia Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Hmm, would 'sex' be how we were biologically born? If so it's pretty much just a contrast for me. Being female means being myself, who I am at heart, both in terms of how I feel my body's sex should be, and levels of femininty I'm more able to reach being female. At this point it's a very big thing for me, precisely because I haven't lived that truth in society. It means a lot to me, when I'm able to feel more like myself, and that includes being female. Being born as physically male didn't mean as much in the past when i didn't know as much (including about myself) as it does now, in terms of not being how I want to be physically.. Feeling a discrepancy. It also carries the societal expectations, which make it very hard to be much more feminine, which clashes with how I feel and would like to because of how I am inside. Things that are very important to me are very hard to represent and express in this society, and that's a bad feeling. I am trying my best to find more of myself and find my way through, and be more confident in myself, and make steps towards being more feminine. Slowly, but I can only work with what I've got, and try to look beyond to what might be possible. I want to be happy, so I don't want to just sulk about things, I want to try for me, and beyond ❤️ Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Absolutely nothing. For me it's just a piece of vocabulary, like callig a house "a house" or calling a dog "a dog". Link to post Share on other sites
wyrdwyrm Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Veezle said: I feel odd with this because I have a lot of disgust towards having a female body with breasts and a uterus, but on the social/psychological aspect I just like to think of myself as just... me. Not a woman, not a man, at least by how society defines them. Yet at the same time I don't feel dysphoric enough to officially identify as non-binary. I still use female pronouns and such, and I believe my gender should be nothing more than a simple identifier of my body type (even if I hate that body to some degree). This is almost exactly how I'd put it! Link to post Share on other sites
kiaroskuro Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Galactic Turtle said: For me, being a woman means as I go about the world I am perceived as someone with a female body and with that comes the cultural expectations placed on women regardless of whether I choose to follow those expectations or not. For me, being a female means I have a female body. I couldn't have said it better. I'm very happy to be a female-bodied person, and at the same time I'm very unhappy with all of society's expectations which are the cause of my social dysphoria. Also, being of the female sex means that I'm part of a group that is being discriminated against and experiences all sorts of abuse and violence. That's why I feel so strongly about the feminist cause. But I'm only a "woman" inasmuch as I'm part of a community of fate, and inasmuch as I have a female body. In all other regards, I don't identify with this social category, it means nothing to me. The concept of androgyny, however, as well as the androgynous gender expression - they mean a lot to me. They feel right. Link to post Share on other sites
Zagadka Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 For the most part, nothing, though I am aware of the social constructs of masculinity and femininity. As for masculinity, I feel very detached, personally. I don't feel obligated to behave in a certain way, and I feel no attachment to that identity. Link to post Share on other sites
CajunAce Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 That I happen to have tits and 2 X chromosomes which leads to some physical and mental differences to those with a Y chromosome. I dont fit a lot of the female stereotypes/ expectations and I'm 3000% fine with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Okapi Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 To me, being a female means I have boobs and a vagina (although some days I wish I could get rid of them)... And also it means I have a load of stereotypes shoved on me by society Link to post Share on other sites
frostboot Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I really dislike talking about bodies as "female" or "male". I am nonbinary and therefore my body is a nonbinary one. For me, being nonbinary means that I embrace both femininity and masculinity, as well as the rest of the gender spectrum. Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, frostboot said: I really dislike talking about bodies as "female" or "male". I am nonbinary and therefore my body is a nonbinary one. This. My body doesn't belong to a female. I admit I have trouble really thinking of it as not (intrinsically?) female, since biologically, well, it is, but once I'm done transitioning it won't be anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
frostboot Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 19 hours ago, NoelciMeta said: This. My body doesn't belong to a female. I admit I have trouble really thinking of it as not (intrinsically?) female, since biologically, well, it is, but once I'm done transitioning it won't be anymore. What is biology, though? It's a mess! You don't have to call yourself biologically anything if you don't want to. To quote my favorite tweet dealing with a transphobe: "I'm biologically trans. Also you can go biologically fuck yourself" Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, frostboot said: What is biology, though? It's a mess! You don't have to call yourself biologically anything if you don't want to. Indeed! And within this mess, the categories we defined is just a means for us humans to make things a little bit easier to understand~ Quote To quote my favorite tweet dealing with a transphobe: "I'm biologically trans. Also you can go biologically fuck yourself" Of course, silly me, psychological phenomena most probably all stem from physiological ones... if transness is etched in my brain, there's do denying I am biologically trans Even before the process of taking off sex characteristics which can argueably render one's body mostly unclassifiable with binary sex! Link to post Share on other sites
anisotrophic Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 To me, being non-binary means I am more than what I was. Being female means – or meant – I lived, worked, and loved as a woman. I tried to be attractive. I wore a lovely wedding dress. I gave birth, I fed those children. I was frustrated by weakness. I struggled with sexism. I worried a lot about others. I was vulnerable. I cried. Becoming male – or masculine, on T – means that I am more things, mostly, although there are some losses. I'm getting stronger, my arms are looking great, I can lift things more easily. It's much harder to cry, I'm more inclined to be silent when unhappy. I feel calmer, more assertive. I fuss over the growth of new facial hair. I enjoy my changing voice. Being non-binary, being trans – I explore my new, hybrid physiology, I love the new parts while still happy with the old ones. I pull out necklaces that were long ago consigned to storage. I'm looking into getting my ears re-pierced. Feminine things have become fun again, because they're no longer required. I joke and ask my oldest kid, "should I be a boy or a girl today?" Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, anisotrophic said: To me, being non-binary means I am more than what I was. Being female means – or meant – I lived, worked, and loved as a woman. I tried to be attractive. I wore a lovely wedding dress. I gave birth, I fed those children. I was frustrated by weakness. I struggled with sexism. I worried a lot about others. I was vulnerable. I cried. Becoming male – or masculine, on T – means that I am more things, mostly, although there are some losses. I'm getting stronger, my arms are looking great, I can lift things more easily. It's much harder to cry, I'm more inclined to be silent when unhappy. I feel calmer, more assertive. I fuss over the growth of new facial hair. I enjoy my changing voice. Being non-binary, being trans – I explore my new, hybrid physiology, I love the new parts while still happy with the old ones. I pull out necklaces that were long ago consigned to storage. I'm looking into getting my ears re-pierced. Feminine things have become fun again, because they're no longer required. I joke and ask my oldest kid, "should I be a boy or a girl today?" This!! I love how fantastic you make it sound! I'll never be male or female in the slightest, but I think I could say my expression is androgynous or fluid... and I want to be able to claim anything traditionally associated with a gender because I'm free of gender. It won't limit me one way or the other. I can be pretty and handsome and strong and sensitive and adventurous and good with animals and gender is completely left out of the equation, because it is nothing to me. That is such a precious thought. Link to post Share on other sites
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