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Telecaster68
1 minute ago, Dreamsexual said:

Clearer than what?  What's the alternative, for accurate use in specialised contexts?

 

Side-note:

Also, do you ever post in anything other than one-line snark swipes?  It'd be more pleasant, and seem less hostile, if you formulated your thoughts into paragraphs.

I prefer brevity. 

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Dreamsexual
11 minutes ago, Telecaster68 said:

I prefer brevity. 

If that refers to labelling:

In a context where brevity is important, or it was not useful to use full form, abbreviations would obviously be the way forward: homo-mecha-romantic-asexual becomes 'asexual' or 'mecha'.  Easy.

But in specialist contexts the full form can be used for accuracy and clarity.

 

If your comment refers to your posting style:

Brevity is easily construed as snark (it's in your profile), cause unintended (intended?) offence, and leaves aside normal etiquette and accuracy.  All for the sake of an extra minute of your time.  If a thread/post is worth commenting upon at all, surely you can spare 60 seconds of time to avoid other people pain or confusion?

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Anthracite_Impreza
15 minutes ago, Dreamsexual said:

Wouldn't that just be a switch from sexual to romantic? 

So, for example, following the same format: homo-mecha-romantic-asexual

Well I suppose, it was just the use of the word sexuality... I also suppose that depends on the idea of machines having gender, which, technically, they don't. We might call it gender, but it's not the same as bio-genders.

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Dreamsexual
Just now, Anthracite_Impreza said:

Well I suppose, it was just the use of the word sexuality... I also suppose that depends on the idea of machines having gender, which, technically, they don't. We might call it gender, but it's not the same as bio-genders.

Indeed. :) 

And if you subscribe to machines being non- or a-gendered, and would rather avoid an orientation label like homo- or hetero- then that can be easily replaced with pan- or a- or non- . 

 

But the formatting system seems generally sound to me, and solves some issues regarding clarity for those whose SO (or attraction preference) is non-human.

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Telecaster68
15 minutes ago, Dreamsexual said:

Surely you can spare 60 seconds of time to avoid other people pain or confusion?

Nope. 

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Dreamsexual
1 minute ago, Telecaster68 said:

Nope.

Wow.

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Anthracite_Impreza

As long as no one is being pressured into using All The Labels (or even any at all) I give no fucks what others call themselves. And unlike certain others that includes "attack helicopter", because if they genuinely mean it I can sympathise.

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Dreamsexual
17 minutes ago, Anthracite_Impreza said:

As long as no one is being pressured into using All The Labels (or even any at all) I give no fucks what others call themselves. And unlike certain others that includes "attack helicopter", because if they genuinely mean it I can sympathise.

Yup.  Sincerity is my touchstone - if people are sincere (no we're not crossing the 'informed consent' line), then they are welcome to my sincere polite respect and toleration.

 

At this point though I don't even know why I bother to extended this largesse to others ... It just seems to make me a weak victim. 

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Anthracite_Impreza

In this world, doing the right thing often makes you unpopular. I don't care any more whether people think I'm a fragile, special snowflake, or too easily offended, or just plain nuts. I've survived some bad shit that makes being called a snowflake almost like a compliment, and if being attracted to cars is the worst "mental problem" I have then I've come out pretty damn lucky.

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Dreamsexual
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Anthracite_Impreza

I would rather no one have to be fearful or in pain, even if they are dickheads. The worst I ever wanted for my abuser was to feel, temporarily, as scared and vulnerable as I always did, just so she'd know. The universe delivered that, now it's over and I'm stronger for it. Yes I still get offended and upset and angry, but I don't let it make me doubt myself any more. Being politely steadfast gets you further than being aggressive or a doormat.

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Dreamsexual
45 minutes ago, Anthracite_Impreza said:

Being politely steadfast gets you further than being aggressive or a doormat.

My life experience doesn't align with this.

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Anthracite_Impreza
40 minutes ago, Dreamsexual said:

My life experience doesn't align with this.

Being aggressive and superior might get you advantages in life, but it will cost you socially. No one wants to hang around with or help someone hostile.

 

I used to deliberately act aggressive so people wouldn't fuck with me; I was being abused at home and I couldn't cope with bullying at school too. It took years to relax after getting out of that situation, but I did eventually. I think when the dust settles you will too; being angry all the time is exhausting.

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Dreamsexual
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PaganUnicorn
4 hours ago, Dreamsexual said:

Wow.

Meh. Nothing new under the sun, as the saying goes. Back on topic now...

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iff

locking this thread for cool down

 

Iff,

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iff

Reopening this thread 

 

please try to stay on topic and avoid personal insults or attacks

 

iff,

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NicoDiAngelo4242
On 5/5/2019 at 3:41 PM, disGraceful said:

Oh in that case... no those are very real. 😐

 

On 5/5/2019 at 3:37 PM, Serran said:

Guessing the OP was more talking about fake labels made as jokes (often offensive ones). Like wafflegender as a response to non-binary labels people disagree with.

 

Or like I made a fake label for my profile 

I'm sorry what is a wafflegender? I nvr hear of that 

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iff
4 hours ago, NicoDiAngelo4242 said:

 

I'm sorry what is a wafflegender? I nvr hear of that 

Looking at it, wafflegender seems to have been made up as a way to mock and make fun of people who identify as non-binary

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NicoDiAngelo4242
7 hours ago, iff said:

Looking at it, wafflegender seems to have been made up as a way to mock and make fun of people who identify as non-binary

That's seriously messed up. Thanks for telling me.

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Moony's Boy Child

@Dreamsexual People who bully others aren't strong; they're hostile out of fear of being seen as weak because they feel powerless. They try to leverage themselves by picking on other weak people. It's not that they are stronger people than the people they target - they are just outwardly destructive rather than inwardly destructive.

 

Sure, they may sometimes have friends but if you care about the quality of your friends at all you won't want to hang around with the types of people that are drawn to aggressive people. Even though they might find some people to hang around them they lose friends, jobs, etc. due to their behavior, and cannot truly function within society.

 

What a fair amount of people don't seem to realize is that no one has to be a bully or a victim. It's a role you put yourself into, you can choose to be neither if you want. There's information online about the drama triangle.

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anisotrophic
15 hours ago, iff said:

Looking at it, wafflegender seems to have been made up as a way to mock and make fun of people who identify as non-binary

Well... an enby, personally I get a bit eye-rolly at the bazillion gender labels. I think "non-binary" is plenty descriptive. So I wouldn't say I would feel mocked. :)

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Sally
On 5/30/2019 at 1:29 AM, Skullery Maid said:

Seems a legitimate test to me. That's how the courts determine the validity of a claimed religion... whether or not it's "sincerely held." 

Yeah.  doesn't matter a whit if the religiion/cult/sect itself is ridiculous; it only matters that the person shows adherence to it.  

 

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CBC
3 hours ago, anisotrophic said:

Well... an enby, personally I get a bit eye-rolly at the bazillion gender labels. I think "non-binary" is plenty descriptive.

And if one wants to be more descriptive, they can use full sentences and existing language to convey the details of their identity, preferences, etc.

 

Anyway. As a cisgendered person, I really appreciate reading opinions like this that aren't from cis people. Just as a sexual person I appreciate hearing the "countless labels are not helpful" view from asexuals. I can respect that other people think differently, we're all welcome to our opinions, but I feel like it's often labelled something with the suffix '-phobia' if a cis and/or sexual person expresses a dislike of all these terms. Because we're bigots or we supposedly don't understand or whatever. We're not trying to personally understand someone else's experiences on a firsthand level (because we never could) or invalidate it, we're simply trying to facilitate communication. And I very sincerely believe that gender and sexual orientation minorities are hurting their own cause by hairsplitting. They deserve respect, and they're hindering the chances of it by microlabelling with unknown terms because it makes communication more confusing, not less. And if people don't understand something because the language surrounding it is entirely foreign, they're more likely to say "Ehhh, that's nonsense". Which is the opposite of the goal of those seeking to be accepted as valid.

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