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2019 European elections


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Who will you vote for?  

21 members have voted

  1. 1. Vote? (If in doubt, ask)

    • Gue - United left & Nordic green left
      1
    • Greens & European free alliance
      12
    • Alde - liberals & democrats
      2
    • Pes - party of European socialists
      1
    • EPP - European people's party
      0
    • Ecr - European conservatives & reformists
      0
    • Efd - Europe of free & direct democracy
      0
    • Enf - Europe of nations & freedom
      1
    • Non- aligned left wing
      0
    • Non - aligned right wing
      1
    • Non - aligned euro skeptic
      0
    • Not going to vote
      3
    • Going to spoil my vote
      0


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With the European elections upcoming, it is important to note that the votes are not only for national party but also European parties. In Ireland we have 4 meps for the European people party, 4 for the united left, then one each for liberals, ecr and socialists.

 

In the UK if they are voting, lib dems are part of liberals, greens, SNP and plaid are all in green free alliance, ukip are part of the marine le pen and Italy's northern league end, ex-ukip is part of alternative fur Deutschland, 5 star movements Efd, Tories & uup are part of eurosceptic Ecr and labour are Pes. The 2 Tory defectors who joined change UK are now in the biggest group, the centre right. The DUP have are not aligned to any group and sink fein's mep for northern Ireland is in united left group

 

So what are your voting intentions come 4 weeks time.

My no. 1 preference is for the green party. With stv system, we have preferences so tough choice on my number 2 between fine Gael/EPP candidate or our labour/pes candidate.

I'm not convinced yet by the liberal credentials of the fianna fail candidates and will need to research them before going to the polls as while 1 fianna fail candidate was elected for Alde last time, he switched to ecr so there is a strong eurosceptic/conservative faction to the party.

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Online test on policy

 

https://yourvotematters.eu/en/quiz/start

 

My result on EU group is

 

1. Greens/EFA Group of the Greens/European Free Alliance

2. GUE-NGL Confederal Group of the European United Left - Nordic Green Left

3. ALDE/ADLE Group of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe

4. S&D/pes Group of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats in the European Parliament

5. EPP Group of the European People's Party (Christian Democrats)

6. EFDD Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy Group

7. ENF Europe of Nations and Freedom Group

8. ECR European Conservatives and Reformists Group

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Thanks for the link to that test. I didn't know the European elections were coming up this soon already.

 

I got:

Greens

Gue

S&D

ALDE

EPP

EFDD

ENF

ECR

 

So pretty much the same as you, except ALDE and S&D got switched.

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Alde 

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  • 2 weeks later...
On 4/22/2019 at 1:07 PM, iff said:

'm not convinced yet by the liberal credentials of the fianna fail candidates and will need to research them before going to the polls as while 1 fianna fail candidate was elected for Alde last time, he switched to ecr so there is a strong eurosceptic/conservative faction to the party.

Having done my research on the two fianna fail candidates, they both seem to be on the conservative side of the party having been against repealing our eighth amendment last year.

 

The preferences are important in Ireland, this was 2014 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midlands–North-West_(European_Parliament_constituency)#2014_election

 

So if my no. 1 is eliminated, my vote goes to my no. 2, if they are eliminated and my no. 3 has been elected or eliminated, then it goes to my number 4. If my number 4 is elected on the count they receive my vote, the unneeded surplus of the transfers they received on that count  is divided among remainimg candidates based on next preferences, then a proportion of my vote goes to my number 5

 

Counting can be days of fun

 

Spoiler

If the greens are doing well ;)

 

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Made that test, and it's very clearly Green/EFA for me.

 

I'm thoroughly unsurprised, seeing as I don't see much conscientious alternative anymore than voting for the Greens in our national elections, either. :)

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I've made a similar test for the German parties and these were my top three results:

75% The Greens

75% DiEM25 (Democracy in Europe Movement 2025)

73.5 % Die PARTEI (It is some kind of satirical joke party that had one seat in the last parliament.)

 

I think I'll stick to DiEM25 instead of the Greens.

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I might decide to vote Labour which I think it PES just because the Greens probably don't stand a shot in the East Midlands 

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Dreamer23

Voted Alde, based on the fact that 3/4 people from the party I'm going to vote for are listed as Alde on yourvotematter.eu (the other one being the green party)

... at least based on my understanding that I'll be voting for parties not candidates (which is what Germany's federal yourvotematters equivalent implied)

Will know for certain once I get my voting papers - which will hopefully be by the end of this week or so! :) (Sent out last Friday)

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21 hours ago, ben8884 said:

I might decide to vote Labour which I think it PES just because the Greens probably don't stand a shot in the East Midlands 

Yes, looking it up, last time out they were at 67k votes so they need a further 79k votes to be elected for the fifth seat.

 

Labour on the other hand were 12k (1.06%) short of passing the Tories and taking the fifth seat to give them 2.

 

Useful fact about useful information - I have an understanding of the d'hondt system

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Voted today. No. 1 for the green party candidate. I was also going to vote for her as no. 1 but saw on her on the constituency debate, she was superb.

 

This is her delivering a great burn on the anti-imigration candidate on the TV debate

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158696845808066&id=108339693065

 

Another great moment was her questioning a former minister who was justifying the apple tax avoidance when he tried to say "every company could avail of it" 

Her end remark on this was "even the local company with 3 employees"

 

RTE exit poll put her third at 12%. Whether this materialises in the count I don't know but it would be great if it did.

 

I went to no. 6 with the preferences 1. Greens 2. Independent 3. Pes (labour) 4. Fine Gael candidate (EPP) 5. Independent from  Gue 6. Probably Gue but party is not yet aligned. With no. 6 I was mostly impressed with how fast he can talk fast #WellUsedVote

 

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We also had locals. My no. 1 was independent. I had a chat with him before voting (he has a shop in the locale) no. 2 greens, no. 3 independent no. 4 ff no. 5 independent

 

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With the European votes being announced on Sunday night. It's like seeing mum & dad come home in the open showing with Christmas presents on 23rd December but not being able to open them.

 

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According to the first prognosis of the EU election in Germany the Greens are at 22%. That is really impressive.

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49 minutes ago, timewarp said:

According to the first prognosis of the EU election in Germany the Greens are at 22%. That is really impressive.

For me, I have the feeling this might be some of the only news in this election that will be good

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Skycaptain

Not necessarily, they want speed limits :mad::mad:

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One of our 3 constituencies will be fully recounted as the gap between the 5th and 6th place candidates is 327 votes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48464786

 

This may take 28 working days to complete at a cost of €1 million.

 

If the recount isn't complete by time of start of parliamentary session, the two candidates already deemed elected can not take their European parliament seats until it is complete.

 

Once recount is complete then it has to be decided who has to wait for godot brexit to take up the seat. We already have another in Dublin constituency sitting out until brexit.

 

Then there is the by-elections this has caused by 4 sitting TDs (our MPs) being elected. 

 

The final south seat is between green party and sinn fein though not necessarily would be the candidate that has to wait as the losing candidates votes are divided out among the remaining ones.

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On 5/26/2019 at 9:34 PM, Skycaptain said:

Not necessarily, they want speed limits :mad::mad:

Are there no speed limits in Tunbridge Wells? Wow! 😄

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