Cheshire-Cat Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 This is one of the best anti-conservative campaigns I've seen. Votey McVoteface getting boaters with no fixed address to register and vote in marginal areas, including where Boris is the candidate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blaiddmelyn Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Acing It said: That's outrageous. I wouldn't want to work for a tw*tter like that! That's illegal as well in more than one way, I'm sure. Tell them to keep a screenshot of the email in case anything happens. Well, it's unfair dismissal if they have 2 years' service. IIRC political opinion isn't protected from discrimination generally speaking but I haven't looked at it for a while. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I don't actually know if it's illegal - as Blaidd says political affiliation isn't a protected characteristic in the UK unlike religion say - but it's deeply unprofessional at the very least. Only 1hr 15 min to go till the exit poll! *is deeply hoping that either the opinion polls thus far are really misleading, or the apparent swing towards Labour in the last few days is large enough to make a hung parliament* 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Here are the exit polls of all UK elections since 1992. Next chapter to be written within the hour! In the meantime, if anyone hasn't voted, it's still not too late! You have 47min... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire-Cat Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I think hung parliament with conservatives in the lead but I hope I'm wrong. I think if the conservatives are in the lead with a hung parliament they'll be hard pressed to find another party to top up the number. DUP and SNP wouldn't touch them, lib dems, green and plaid probably not either due to their totally different stances on Brexit. The only way I could see them getting one of them on board is to agree to another referendum which Boris doesn't want. And for SNP to promise another independence vote. Brexit party may get enough to boost them up but I hope people were sensible enough not to vote for a party with one tiny portion of UK politics in mind (but judging my the MEP elections I couldn't be so sure). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 The Brexit party won't get any seats, I'm fairly sure. I think the DUP would make a coalition with the conservatives again (it's the only way they're getting any influence at all), but I don't think the conservatives would particularly want to, given the DUP will vote against their Brexit deal. At this point I'd be happy with "not a conservative majority" even if the conservatives are the largest party. At least the other parties could block vote against them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 min till the exit poll! (edit: 2 min) It's funny how much coverage there is of the supposed race between Newcastle and Sunderland on the first to declare. It's the one thing I'm *really* not bothered by.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acing It Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, michaeld said: I don't actually know if it's illegal - as Blaidd says political affiliation isn't a protected characteristic in the UK unlike religion say - but it's deeply unprofessional at the very least. Only 1hr 15 min to go till the exit poll! *is deeply hoping that either the opinion polls thus far are really misleading, or the apparent swing towards Labour in the last few days is large enough to make a hung parliament* It isn't from that perspective but it would be unfair dismissal and arguably bullying as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 OK now it really is just 1min. I think for the first time we won't have Big Ben chime at 10pm on exit poll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Oh gosh...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 What the ...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Conservative majority of 86!!!! Much worse than I feared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Time to leave the country? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acing It Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 stunning victory indeed. I'm thinking of moving to Scotland, if not abroad, if this is the result. I hope it's completely wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acing It Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 get the country out of the paralysis straight into one made by the nasty party IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I hope so too, but at this point it's basically hoping for a miracle. The exit polls aren't spot on, but they're generally not this badly wrong. When Newcastle or Sunderland or whoever are the first to declare in the next hr or so, we'll have a big clue then as to how accurate the exit poll is. I fear the worst though... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acing It Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Two silver linings IMO, if you can call them that: the DUP are out and the Brexit party won't win any seats if the poll is right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Probably not as horrible a shock for you as Trump was for us, but still... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Sally said: Probably not as horrible a shock for you as Trump was for us, but still... At least you can vote him out next year (hopefully), assuming the Senate doesn't convict him. We now have another 5 years of this.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Daily Mail's headline "Rejoice! Boris set for thumping win". Says it all... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iff Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, michaeld said: At least you can vote him out next year (hopefully), assuming the Senate doesn't convict him. We now have another 5 years of this.... Though probably the tory spinners will go work for the republicans next year. All the Northern Irish seats listed under other in the exit poll summary despite 2 parties at least getting more than 3 listed in the summary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyke Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, michaeld said: Here are the exit polls of all UK elections since 1992. Next chapter to be written within the hour! In the meantime, if anyone hasn't voted, it's still not too late! You have 47min... Fascinating. In general it appears that the Conservatives have out-performed the exit poll. Maybe because people don't like admitting that they voted for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyke Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, michaeld said: At least you can vote him out next year (hopefully), assuming the Senate doesn't convict him. We now have another 5 years of this.... I doubt Boris will last 5 years. He's bound to do something so heinous that he'll get kicked out or have to resign. And maybe, just maybe, he wont win his seat? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iff Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Midland Tyke said: I doubt Boris will last 5 years. He's bound to do something so heinous that he'll get kicked out or have to resign. And maybe, just maybe, he wont win his seat? I think the best shot is not winning his seat He has spent his career saying and doing stupid things and yet that hasn't stopped him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
natsume Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I'm betting that he thinks the brexit chaos will continue to help him. The worse of a mess the conservatives make, the more people run to them for the solution. Brexit will give him a massive recession and frightened people believing propaganda in The Sun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Our President will be impeached by the end of today by the House. The Senate will wait until after the holidays to put him on trial, which will end soon with him trumpeting/tweeting "I've been thoroughly vindicated!" Then we'll have to suffer through another 12 months of him completing his wreck of the country. It sounds like you have an out if Boris doesn't win his seat -- ? What a situation: I'd bet no one would have believed 5 years ago that both countries could have such dolts in power. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Sally said: Our President will be impeached by the end of today by the House. The Senate will wait until after the holidays to put him on trial, which will end soon with him trumpeting/tweeting "I've been thoroughly vindicated!" Yup. The whole thing was completely predictable before it started. I hope it doesn't backfire for the dems. Quote It sounds like you have an out if Boris doesn't win his seat -- ? It's a nice idea but has vanishing small probability. The party leaders always stand in safe seats. The only time a major party's leader can lose their seat is if either they selected the seat to run in incompetently (which never really happens), or the leader has a personal scandal that loses them their base, or the party as a whole has a disastrous election. It's not gonna happen. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Midland Tyke said: Fascinating. In general it appears that the Conservatives have out-performed the exit poll. Maybe because people don't like admitting that they voted for them? I think that's a large part of it. Same with the Brexit referendum and of course the Trump election, where the opinion polls underestimate the Brexit/Trump vote. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whore*of*Mensa Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 So depressed watching this result 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whore*of*Mensa Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 It wasn't just Brexit. The media has run a hate campaign against Corbyn, and people are scared of socialism. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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