Skycaptain Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 One thing - this is probably the first European election that more than 20% of the population give two hoots about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyke Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 And there is still a possibility that they wont take place at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyke Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Haha. No thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReverentCreature Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If we have to vote I will be voting for the Brexit Party. No party did well and so many failed to vote out of anger for the slow pace of Brexit so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 hours ago, ben8884 said: not sure how I am gonna vote in the EU elections. I am naturally inclined for the Greens and I think they are the best party however, my Dad has pointed out that the Greens have no chance in the East Midlands and that voting Green might help the Brexit Party. So I may vote Lib Dem or even Labour to stop them. 5 hours ago, Telecaster68 said: I'm worried that Change and LibDems will split the stay/second referendum vote, which will weaken the 'just stop it! now!' argument. They need to co-ordinate. The European elections use PR if I remember correctly, so splitting the vote isn't such a big deal. I'd just vote for whomever you agree with most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben8884 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Telecaster68 said: I'm worried that Change and LibDems will split the stay/second referendum vote, which will weaken the 'just stop it! now!' argument. They need to co-ordinate. Thats kinda what my Dad and I were talking about the other day and why I am reconsidering voting Green. The trouble is, there are 3 "remain" parties (4 if you count Labour, 4 and a half if you count Labour and some Tories) and only 2 Brexit parties (3 if you count the BNP, 3 and a half if you count the BNP and some Tories). Because of this there is more of a potential for vote splitting. While its impossible really to deduce anything from the European elections (but that won't stop May saying "the message is clear-we must deliver Brexit whatever the outcome) if we were to try the only way to honestly do it is add up the votes for all the Remain parties vs Brexit parties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Telecaster68 said: I dunno. Three or four MEPs are elected per regional constituency, and at least a couple will be from the two main parties. So if the LibDem vote is halved by Change, or vice versa, it could easily be the difference between getting a decent number of 'remain' MEPs and almost none. True - there is some incentive to vote tactically, arising from the fact the number of MEPs per region is a small non-negative integer. It's pretty difficult to analyse this though - I think it could also work the other way. So I'm just going to vote for my preferred party (lib dems in my case). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben8884 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 @michaeld if you don't mind me asking do you do a proxy vote? I notice in your location that you're in the States. I use a proxy vote. I ask because apparently now we have to register before every election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I'm UK based and British. I changed the location on my profile when I was visiting Texas in 2011 and never got round to changing it back. 😛 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timewarp Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I wouldn't take the locations of people on here for granted. I don't live in Stratford either, it's just one of the few places that have AVEN in their name... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben8884 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 how long will May stay in office? I mean at this point shes basically lost control of her party. Meanwhile Corbyn said Labour could unit the country but I am unsure how seeing as how they cannot unite themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iff Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 For British EU voters, according to this calculation, https://www.remainunited.org/be-tactical/ best voting choice in England for remain is lib dems while nationalists are best in Wales and Scotland. Hopefully, northern Ireland could return a real remainer. The third seat is between alliance, UUP and SDLP so I think it depends on who comes fourth and fifth. If alliance come ahead of SDLP, then alliance will do better from transfers than UUP. If SDLP come ahead of alliance, then the third seat is between UUP and SDLP and more likely, the UUP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Corbout could unite the country into hating him even more than they do now. If Labour want to be credible he has to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire-Cat Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Corbyn is a marmite. He got a LOT of people interested in politics that otherwise wouldn't have been. However, his less traditional stance isn't favoured by many of his colleagues (who seem to want to be closer to the conservatives in policy). I think he should have taken a more decisive stance on Brexit one way or the other but other than that I rather like his different way of looking at things and his unconventional-ism. It's just the media have taken every opportunity possible to slate him when there's been other things far more worthy of reporting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott1989 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 THEY TOOK OUR MCDONALDS MILKSHAKES!!! 🤣🤣🤣https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/18/police-ask-mcdonalds-to-halt-milkshake-sales-during-farage-rally?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR28XEpk955GUXui5gObYHKb8roheshx7-HSOlPpxDBM7aZKSbmOtvoJiAk#Echobox=1558180326 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Only in Britain..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott1989 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Of course if forcing McDonalds to not sell milkshakes was bad... https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/19/burger-king-accused-inciting-violence-farage-selling-milkshakes-9598586/?fbclid=IwAR0ciPWxrjVeC8yP92Q-cYfkaHlXv_GKJ54HDxYY9Zmehk3yU3qIgqjNPvI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Leaving aside the milkshake, I was wondering why Farage was bothering turning up in Scotland in the first place. But then I remembered UKIP won a seat in Scotland at the Euro election last time (or the time before, can't remember...) so maybe the Brexit party will this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blaiddmelyn Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I'm just baffled as to why banning milkshakes solves anything. Were I an individual hellbent on throwing food or drink at someone, I could just get an ice cream or ... literally any cold drink. I admit milkshake has a particular viscosity to it, but if I'm that determined, I can plan around this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 True - it'd be questionable publicity for McDonald's if it was their milkshake though, especially if they were tipped off about it beforehand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 It's because McDonald's isn't British. Hoying Irn Bru at him would be acceptable 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blaiddmelyn Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I think the ban actually inspired people... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeld Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 As much as I dislike what Farage stands for, I don't think this is a good development. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blaiddmelyn Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Nor me. Much as I disagree with pretty much everything Farage has to say: (i) he has a right to say it and we have a right to then address his arguments; and (ii) it just makes him look like a victim. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Trouble is that this has started a trend. Every brexiteer is going to be targeted by milkshakes, they'll become the symbol of remaining Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daveb Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The childish part of me wouldn't mind seeing that being done to certain politicians over here. The sweet tooth side sees it as a waste of a milkshake. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, daveb said: The childish part of me wouldn't mind seeing that being done to certain politicians over here. The sweet tooth side sees it as a waste of a milkshake. We could use soft-serve ice cream. It's not real ice cream. What is in that stuff anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daveb Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sally said: We could use soft-serve ice cream. It's not real ice cream. What is in that stuff anyway? Or frozen yogurt? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Milkshakes are predominantly potato starch Farage wants to press charges against the assailant. Pity there's not much milk involved, or we could churn out bad puns about assault and buttery 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daveb Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Skycaptain said: Milkshakes are predominantly potato starch Where did you get that info from? I can't find any reliable source that says that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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