songchick

No sexual fantasies because of Aphantasia?

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songchick

On AVEN's "Gray Area" section, I've been asking questions about lack of sexual fantasies influencing asexuality.  Someone really helpfully mentioned "aphantasia," which is a condition that a person has no internal "mind's eye" that can visualize pictures.  I actually realize that I have none of the 5 senses within me.  My dreams are completely blank with no sounds, smells, tastes or physical sensations.  I mostly dream in words and feelings.  The only thing I dream of really is jumping down staircases and jumping and floating in general, but again it is all very vague.  I recently have asked people about sexual fantasies, and everyone talks about how vivid they are.  I can't even imagine an orange in my head unless I think of the word "orange."

 

This definitely influences my sexuality.  I wonder even, if I didn't have aphantasia, then would I be asexual at all?  Also, does aphantasia affect my level of arousal in waking life? Even in the moment, my mind can't visualize implications when I close my eyes.  Maybe I can have some "coping skills" like keeping my eyes open, focusing on senses like hearing and smell, etc.  

 

For me, I think I should rely on the inner words and feelings that I experience.  My thoughts and my heart are my compass.  Yay.

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Nowhere Girl

Still, fantasies can be formed in words as well. Basically, it's like writing a story in your head. I'm an extreme verbal thinker, by the way, though the visual aspect of my dreams (as opposed to daydreams and fantasies, which may include "imagining how something looks like", but never reach the level of "actually seeing something in my mind" because it's a state I'm incapable of achieving without certain psychoactive assistance) has never seemed odd to me. However, I don't have sex dreams, only erotic fantasies in third person.

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Grimalkin

What an interesting intersectionality! You ask a valid question, though I'm willing to bet you would still be asexual even without the aphantasia. People don't need to fantasize to be attracted to people that they see in real life. At least, I'm pretty sure.

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kiaroskuro
On 11/27/2018 at 2:57 AM, Grimalkin said:

What an interesting intersectionality! You ask a valid question, though I'm willing to bet you would still be asexual even without the aphantasia. People don't need to fantasize to be attracted to people that they see in real life. At least, I'm pretty sure.

I second that.

I might be super biased here, but many, if not most people around me seem pretty unimaginative. And allosexual.

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songchick
9 hours ago, kiaroskuro said:

I second that.

I might be super biased here, but many, if not most people around me seem pretty unimaginative. And allosexual.

I feel like allosexuals aren't too imaginative, or at least they're imaginative in the "wrong direction."  Like pushing boundaries, seeing how much they can take, eek, other gross stuff.  For me, it's about the connection, friendship, safety.  

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roland.o
On 11/28/2018 at 6:47 PM, songchick said:

I feel like allosexuals aren't too imaginative, or at least they're imaginative in the "wrong direction."  Like pushing boundaries, seeing how much they can take, eek, other gross stuff.  For me, it's about the connection, friendship, safety.  

There's the other kind of allosexuals as well. But they're less likely to make a move on you :D:cake:

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Small Horse

Asexuals can still fantasize and dream about sex, but it usually deals with fetishes, feelings, or situations, rather than thinking about sexy people. I had an odd dream where I humped a yoga ball, but there were no people involved at all.

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songchick

UPDATE:

I am writing an article for The Establishment (reputed online publication) about Asexuality and Aphantasia, investigating if there is a correlation.  If possible, I'd like to quote people who have posted above, etc.  Also, if anyone has ideas on it subsequently now, I'd love to quote you further.  

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Marlow1

HI @songchick

 

I dont know if you already know about this but a poll was done to see if any of the folk here do indeed have Aphantasia and fall somewhere on the Asexual Spectrum

 

 

To date, I have not met anybody that has Aphantasia that have said they easily become attracted. Everybody that I have spoken to has said they believe that they are Asexual, grey sexual or a sexual person that only becomes attracted occasionally. Quite a few have said they have very little interest in pornography too, and some have said that without visuals they feel their ability to fantasize is limited too

 

Not all Asexual folk have Aphantasia but quit a few people that have Aphantasia believe they fall on the Asexual Spectrum

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