The Dryad Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I don't know how many other people on AVEN are following the developments of Asgardia or even how many people know about it. So if you don't know, Asgardia is basically a Space Station nation, that hasn't been builted yet, but has a Russian billionaire elected for it's first ruler/president, and about 200,000 pledged citizens. I've also heard that IQ tests might be a requirement for citizenship. Is anyone interested in becoming a citizen of Asgardia? Is anyone else worried about gene mutation and other side effects of living so far away from Earth? Link to post Share on other sites
Anthracite_Impreza Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Dryad said: I've also heard that IQ tests might be a requirement for citizenship. Ableist, just sayin'. Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Anthracite_Impreza said: Ableist, just sayin'. Yeah, I find it strange that a "country" would do this, but it is ableist... I know different country can have different laws and policies, and just because it's being founded in this time, doesn't mean it will adopt the same policies we have developed. I think they're mostly looking to create a country of "only smart people" so it looks good. Already they're failing (looks like another Auroville in the making). Link to post Share on other sites
Anthracite_Impreza Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, The Dryad said: Yeah, I find it strange that a "country" would do this, but it is ableist... I know different country can have different laws and policies, and just because it's being founded in this time, doesn't mean it will adopt the same policies we have developed. I think they're mostly looking to create a country of "only smart people" so it looks good. Already they're failing (looks like another Auroville in the making). I have a low IQ, officially, yet I was the second highest scorer in GCSE in my school. I know lots of people in the same boat, or who are so knowledgeable about certain things (but not others) it'd blow your mind. IQ is a truly shitty way of deciding who is smart. But even discounting that, I'd rather be stuck in a tin can with nice, moral people with low IQs than big-headed, smart ones any day (not that everyone with a high IQ is big-headed, but they can be). Link to post Share on other sites
Elision Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I think so far the only people to be affected by space have been male, but I may be wrong. So, I'm not super concerned about space. Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Me as a kid, watching the first space shuttle launch "Mum, when I grow up I want to be shot into space" Mum - "If your father had done as he was told, you would have been" 😋 😋 Link to post Share on other sites
Cimmerian Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 hours ago, The Dryad said: but has a Russian billionaire elected for it's first ruler/president, and about 200,000 pledged citizens. I've also heard that IQ tests might be a requirement for citizenship. Did anyone else read this line and immediately think that they might not be screening for average or high IQ in this case? Cynical, I know. Link to post Share on other sites
Anthracite_Impreza Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Cimmerian said: Did anyone else read this line and immediately think that they might not be screening for average or high IQ in this case? Cynical, I know. You make an excellent point there. Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Skycaptain said: Me as a kid, watching the first space shuttle launch "Mum, when I grow up I want to be shot into space" Mum - "If your father had done as he was told, you would have been" 😋 😋 click me Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 12 hours ago, Cimmerian said: Did anyone else read this line and immediately think that they might not be screening for average or high IQ in this case? Cynical, I know. Yes, especially if they only want "smart people" applying for citizenship... Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 20 hours ago, Anthracite_Impreza said: I have a low IQ, officially, yet I was the second highest scorer in GCSE in my school. I know lots of people in the same boat, or who are so knowledgeable about certain things (but not others) it'd blow your mind. IQ is a truly shitty way of deciding who is smart. But even discounting that, I'd rather be stuck in a tin can with nice, moral people with low IQs than big-headed, smart ones any day (not that everyone with a high IQ is big-headed, but they can be). Exactly, I believe there are more well-rounded forms of intelligence than I, seeing as how you can have/study for a high I, but fail in society, lack grace and manners, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Epitaph Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Billionaire elected as it's president huh. Russian to boot. And IQ tests to get in. I really don't see any red flags here whatsoever. No sir. Link to post Share on other sites
Yatogami Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Theyd be better off using mbti than IQ for selection. Seems like a silly pipe dream to me. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Bone density loss in zero-gravity. Thats enough for me to say 'no thanks'. I don't want to end up as a floating Faberge egg. Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 It seems that the population of Asgardia has reached over, or almost over 250,000, a blend of celebrities and scientists mostly, maybe with some idealists sprinkled in. It doesn't have a physical state yet, only a satellite "about the size of a bread loaf"..... 🍞 Lol. Link to post Share on other sites
GutsyCowardLep Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Its a cool idea then when the world ends we can reenact the 100. (TV show) Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, The Dryad said: It seems that the population of Asgardia has reached over, or almost over 250,000, a blend of celebrities and scientists mostly, maybe with some idealists sprinkled in. It doesn't have a physical state yet, only a satellite "about the size of a bread loaf"..... 🍞 Lol. Thats fine, all we need is a really good blender. Link to post Share on other sites
J. van Deijck Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I just really want to go to Belgium first. Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, [noize:injekktion] said: I just really want to go to Belgium first. I want to move to France, but honestly, Asgardia seems really exciting, and I'm interested. Reality is this isn't exactly marketed as some Utopia like Auroville was, but....it was a total flop because of the crime rate and threats- my concern is, if you're in danger of rape or someone tries to kill you or steals from you- you're stuck in the space orbit- even smart people are criminals who have no moral compass. Link to post Share on other sites
StormySky Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Wow, I'd do nearly anything to go to space!!! Seems a bit questionable, though. Just cause you got a good IQ doesn't mean you're a good citizen. Link to post Share on other sites
DuskFire Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I'll stick with my fellow idiots thanks. BTW I've heard about this and it seems horrible. I don't think it'd even be right to call a space civilization "advanced" if they discriminate based not only on IQ but anything at all. If it's gonna be a true Utopia then everyone should be treated equally not just smartasses and government officials. Link to post Share on other sites
Cimmerian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 8:57 PM, The Dryad said: It seems that the population of Asgardia has reached over, or almost over 250,000, a blend of celebrities and scientists mostly, maybe with some idealists sprinkled in. It doesn't have a physical state yet, only a satellite "about the size of a bread loaf"..... 🍞 Lol. Does anyone else think their society won't last very long with that sort of population? Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Cimmerian said: Does anyone else think their society won't last very long with that sort of population? They're probably hoping to get more support and members, but that's doubtful with their restrictions... Link to post Share on other sites
Epitaph Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 5:18 AM, GuzziHero said: Thats fine, all we need is a really good blender. Cue ancient music from the depths of youtube. Will it blend? That is the question. Link to post Share on other sites
Pest Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I signed up when it was first announced, but I haven't really been keeping up with it. I got an email about an election the other day? I thought that if it becomes reality during my lifetime, so sure. Until then I'm not going to do much about it though Link to post Share on other sites
EngineeRaven Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 About the intelligence tests for citizenship thing - it might sound good, especially if they could somehow put together a measurement system that's a bit more accurate than the current IQ tests. But it only works for the first generation of citizens. Regression is a thing that has been noted through history, exceptionally intelligent and talented parents' offsprings will probably be much closer to average than their parents. So what do they do to not-intelligent-enough kids? They exile them? Or they just don't get the equal rights as the exceptional ones? Or the IQ limit is only for generation 0, so they can make it work? I'm really curious what their plan is abut this situation. Link to post Share on other sites
The Dryad Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 4:15 PM, MaeveTheRaven said: About the intelligence tests for citizenship thing - it might sound good, especially if they could somehow put together a measurement system that's a bit more accurate than the current IQ tests. But it only works for the first generation of citizens. Regression is a thing that has been noted through history, exceptionally intelligent and talented parents' offsprings will probably be much closer to average than their parents. So what do they do to not-intelligent-enough kids? They exile them? Or they just don't get the equal rights as the exceptional ones? Or the IQ limit is only for generation 0, so they can make it work? I'm really curious what their plan is abut this situation. I'm thinking they're probably gonna prioritize education to get the highest IQ as possible? Kids are probably going to be doing algebra at age three. My worry is about their governing body, I read an article that already infers that it's corrupt....or on it's way. Link to post Share on other sites
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