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Aegosexuality vs Asexuality (question) ??

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KoolKat13

I googled this term, and it means "A disconnection between oneself and a sexual target/object of arousal; may involve sexual fantasies, or arousal in response to erotica or pornography, but lacking any desire to be a participant in the sexual activities therein." Now, I'm not trying to be acephobic, I understand that this is a full, valid sexuality, and if I come off as offensive, I am truly sorry. But I am a little bit confused. People have told me that most asexual people don't feel sexually attracted to someone, but can still get aroused. If this is true, is aegosexuality the same as asexuality? Again, I'm not trying to be rude or offensive, I just want to make sure I understand this sexuality.

 

 

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Puck

People like coming up with a lot of labels that get more and more specific.

 

There are some labels that are considered under the "ace umbrella" which would mean they are effectively asexual but they want to express more beyond "I don't feel sexual attraction."

 

I have never heard of Aegosexuality, but I'm sure it resinates with some people. I tend to just roll with everyone's feelings are valid, it's up to every persons to explore themselves and there are endless nuances, but I don't look into these so called "micro labels" beyond respecting those who feel they need them.

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RK800

Most, if not all, aegosexuals qualify as asexual in my experience. Many just feel more validated by something more specific.

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MichaelTannock

I have to correct you on one point, you said "People have told me that most asexual people don't feel sexually attracted to someone" but it's all asexual people that don't feel sexually attracted to someone, since that's the definition of Asexuality. Grey-Asexuality has a little more wriggle room though, as does Demisexuality.

 

Anyway, to your question.
Asexuals don't feel the pull to have sex with someone, i.e. sexual attraction, so assuming they still have a libido, their fantasies will most likely be of other people having sex, rather than themselves having sex.
While this kind of Asexual would fall under Aegosexual as well, it is also possible that a Sexual person could imagine themselves having sex and for whatever reason lack the desire to have it in reality.
While rarer, this would also fall under Aegosexual, so Aegosexuality and Asexuality are not the same.

 

And, since I haven't welcomed you to AVEN yet, welcome to AVEN!

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CBC

It seems like a term that has no real need to exist. If "aegosexuals" don't want partnered sex, they're asexual. End of.

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MichaelTannock

@CBC I can see where you're coming from, but some people view porn differently, and I can imagine someone who experiences sexual attraction but also wants to watch porn that depicts sex acts they don't want to engage in themselves.

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Just Somebody

Aegosexuality is under the Gre(a)y-sexual umbrella/spectrum and they in fact feel sexual attraction thats why, differently from aces, that have their own umbrella.

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Yatagarasu

...Isn't that just autochorissexuality? Which technically falls under asexuality.

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Nowhere Girl
22 hours ago, Yatagarasu said:

...Isn't that just autochorissexuality? Which technically falls under asexuality.

It's the same. By the way, the correct spelling of the alternative term is "anegosexual".

I'm not sure if autochorissexuality is asexual by itself - I rather think of it as description of a particular part of a person's sexuality and I think that allosexuals can be autochorissexual as well. That said, it seems that aces are much more likely to experience it. We've also discussed it a bit at the Polish asexuality forum and, according to one user, some allosexuals she had asked were genuinely surprised that "there is such a thing" as fantasising in third person.

To me it's natural - I have a libido, but I'm also sex-averse, I have strong negative feelings towards the idea of personally having sex. So third person fantasies are the only option for me. And this is probably exactly why autochorissexuality seems to be "an ace thing".

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Just Somebody
41 minutes ago, Nowhere Girl said:

It's the same. By the way, the correct spelling of the alternative term is "anegosexual".

I'm not sure if autochorissexuality is asexual by itself - I rather think of it as description of a particular part of a person's sexuality and I think that allosexuals can be autochorissexual as well. That said, it seems that aces are much more likely to experience it. We've also discussed it a bit at the Polish asexuality forum and, according to one user, some allosexuals she had asked were genuinely surprised that "there is such a thing" as fantasising in third person.

To me it's natural - I have a libido, but I'm also sex-averse, I have strong negative feelings towards the idea of personally having sex. So third person fantasies are the only option for me. And this is probably exactly why autochorissexuality seems to be "an ace thing".

Saying anegosexuality is in the ace umbrella, is actually misleading, there's people like somniosexuals who only feel attraction to people in their dreams,  fictosexuals who only feel attraction to fictional characters, objectumsexuals who only feel attracted to objects sexually,  limnosexuals who feel attracted sexually to depictions of sexuality,  etc,  all these people just like anegosexuals feel pleasure when looking sexually at stuff, and they're in the gray umbrella , far from aces, that are disconnected from any form of  sexual pleasure inside their minds.

 

Being anegosexual is different from being an ace with libido.

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Homer

It's a common experience among "regular" sexual folks as well. "Anego" / "Aego" / "Autochoris" / whatevs on its own isn't very helpful when it comes to distinguishing sexualities.

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FictoVore.
On 7/11/2018 at 8:36 AM, Nowhere Girl said:

That said, it seems that aces are much more likely to experience it.

It's much more likely that the a certain sort of people who end up on AVEN (and Tumblr!) have to pick apart their masturbation fantasies and find a special name for them :P a LOT of people have sexual fantasies they themselves aren't involved in (think about guys who love to watch lesbian porn as one random example - it's hot watching chicks get off together so of course someone into that will be likely to think about it while they masturbate, that's just one example among many!!).

 

So yeah, it's more that most sexual people know that their sexual fantasies are just that, sexual fantasies. They don't feel the need to pick them apart and label them. 

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Sally

And now yet another term shows up: somniosexual.   Ye gods, people.  

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What’s wrong with just saying you’re asexual? Is that out of fashion now?

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Homer
3 hours ago, Sally said:

And now yet another term shows up: somniosexual.   Ye gods, people.  

WTF is that?

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CBC
2 hours ago, Homer said:

WTF is that?

My question as well. Sounds like people who want sex only when they're sleepy or asleep.

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Homer
11 minutes ago, CBC said:

My question as well. Sounds like people who want sex only when they're sleepy or asleep.

Legit. The Urban Dictionary entry even has a their/there/they're fail in it :D

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5 minutes ago, Homer said:

Legit. The Urban Dictionary entry even has a their/there/they're fail in it :D

Oh sweet, I didn't even look it up. Time to check out Urban Dictionary here... hopefully my eyes don't roll too far back in my skull and get stuck there. :rolleyes:

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FictoVore.

Somniosexual is where you're attracted to people in your dreams, duh, everyone knows that.

 

Here's the flag:

 

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Alejandrogynous

I'm one of those that could technically fall into this category, autochoris / anego / aego / leggo-my-eggo. And while it might be interesting topic to think about (unrelated to asexuality), I'd never label myself with any of these, because... TMI? Seriously. I'm really open and I'll overshare about anything but even I don't want to go around introducing myself to people with my masturbation habits. "Hi! I'm Alex, I don't like sex but I masturbate in the third person." Whyy?? I don't desire sex with other people, which makes me asexual, and that's all anybody else needs to know about me.

 

Though I guess if I had to ID as one of these, 'aego' makes me sound like Aegon the Conqueror. Or like I'm only sexual for Aegon the Conqueror. That should set realistic expectations for people who want to screw me. :P Forge a new iron throne and then we'll talk.

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Pramana
On 7/10/2018 at 6:37 PM, Homer said:

It's a common experience among "regular" sexual folks as well. "Anego" / "Aego" / "Autochoris" / whatevs on its own isn't very helpful when it comes to distinguishing sexualities.

Citation Needed.

Two studies (2014 and 2017, Yule/Brotto/Gorzalka) that compare sexual fantasy among asexuals to a sexual control group found that asexuals were significantly more likely to have fantasies that did not involve themselves or that did not involve other people. Those were actually the two most significant differences between the two groups on that measure.

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Tunhope

@Pramana I can give the citation :Yule, Brotto and Gorzalka, 2014 Sexual  fantasy and masturbation among asexual individuals .It's downloadable from https://researchgate.net

I referred to it on a blog post about aegosexuality/ anego / autochorriss etc a few weeks ago https://polyallsorts.wordpress.com

If labels help then I see nothing wrong with them. I'm sure I'm aegoace and there are occasions when it is relevant or helpful for me to use that label (as in the blog post ) Usually, though, it isn't relevant or helpful so I just use asexual.

 

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