Gldlynch Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Hey AVEN I need clarity and advice. What are your definitions of bisexual/romantic, pansexual/romantic and polysexual/romantic? Please be as specific as you can! Do you think bi means two genders? Your own and the opposite? Does it mean "both" genders? Or is it two or more? If "more," then when does it become pan? Sometimes I feel bi, but that feels too restricting. Sometimes I feel pan but the word is almost too broad (do you think there is transphobic connotation attached to this label?) However if I say I'm poly I feel like I sound too picky. Your thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
Hild Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'll only speak for pansexual, as it's the one I identify with. To me, there is nothing about a persons gender that could disqualify them from my love, or from me being attracted to them. Gender is important, but it's part of a whole, and it's the whole that matters to me. Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bi - attraction to two or more genders, or to your gender and other genders Pan- attraction to all genders, or regardless of gender Poly - attraction to multiple genders but not all Yes, the definitions may overlap, but you can call yourself whichever one you feel comfortable with. And no, there's no transphobic connotation attached to being pan (or bi). Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Correction: "bi" means two, not "two or more" - the same way a bicycle has two wheels and not "two or more". Link to post Share on other sites
Lichley Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bisexual means attraction to both your own and the opposite gender. Pansexual means attraction to someone’s regardless of their gender - their gender has nothing to do with why you’re attracted to them, simply put an attraction to personality first and body second. Polysexual is attraction to most but not all genders, like Non-Binary and Female but not Male. Link to post Share on other sites
roland.o Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 http://wiki.asexuality.org/Sexual_orientation Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 39 minutes ago, Homer said: Correction: "bi" means two, not "two or more" - the same way a bicycle has two wheels and not "two or more". That's what the prefix "bi" means, but "bisexual" doesn't have to mean that. Language evolves. Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheAP said: That's what the prefix "bi" means, but "bisexual" doesn't have to mean that. Language evolves. That doesn't make sense though. "Bi" is commonly understood as "two". Why would sex be an exception? That's what words and their meanings are for - to carry a message which is agreed upon. Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Homer said: That doesn't make sense though. "Bi" is commonly understood as "two". Why would sex be an exception? That's what words and their meanings are for - to carry a message which is agreed upon. Saying that bisexual people are attracted to only two genders can make people think that bisexual people don't acknowledge non-binary genders, which can perpetuate prejudice against bi people. Link to post Share on other sites
Puck Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Poly is not a sexual orientation, it's what one wants their relationship to be like. Most people are monogamous, so they want one partner that they'll be with their whole life. But some are polyamorous aka poly which means they want to have multiple partners at once. So if a woman had two husbands, she's be polyamorous. She'll also have a sexual orientation, such as heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, pansexual, asexual.... Bi = Attracted to both men and women Pan = Attracted to all genders Link to post Share on other sites
roland.o Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Puck said: Poly is not a sexual orientation "polyamorous" is not. But I've been recently made aware of the fact that there is also "polysexual". Link to post Share on other sites
Puck Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, roland.o said: "polyamorous" is not. But I've been recently made aware of the fact that there is also "polysexual". Ah, well the internet comes up with new ones all the time I've never heard of "polysexual" but it'd be interesting if someone was claiming that and trying to use the shorthand "poly" when poly is so widely used/accepted to mean polyamorous. Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAP said: Saying that bisexual people are attracted to only two genders can make people think that bisexual people don't acknowledge non-binary genders, which can perpetuate prejudice against bi people. Honestly IDGAF what people "could think" when accurate terms are being used. One could even argue that it's not even specified which genders we are talking about, just that this person is attracted to precisely two of them. Could be any two. Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Homer said: Honestly IDGAF what people "could think" when accurate terms are being used. One could even argue that it's not even specified which genders we are talking about, just that this person is attracted to precisely two of them. Could be any two. I don't really see the point in policing how people refer to themselves just because of the original meaning of the prefix. Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAP said: I don't really see the point in policing how people refer to themselves just because of the original meaning of the prefix. I don't see the point of education if everything just means what you want it to mean... besides that, you're missing the point. People can refer to themselves however they want. Others are free to point out that their choice of words is inaccurate. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Homer said: That's what words and their meanings are for - to carry a message which is agreed upon. Homer ,Homer, Homer... you do know which website you're on don't you? Link to post Share on other sites
Lichley Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, roland.o said: "polyamorous" is not. But I've been recently made aware of the fact that there is also "polysexual". I’ve heard Omnisexual used instead so people don’t get confused between polyamourus and polysexual, which is probably a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I guess we shouldn't call animals "omnivores" then, if they won't eat absolutely everything. Omni means all. Link to post Share on other sites
Alejandrogynous Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bi - attracted to two genders Pan - attracted to all genders, or attracted to people regardless of gender Poly - attracted to multiple genders but not all I have known several people who fit the definition of pansexual but use 'bisexual' instead simply because it's more well known, doesn't require as much explanation, and because a lot of people already formed an identity with it before pansexual was even a word. Conversely, I've also seen people ID as pansexual simply because they don't like the baggage 'bisexual' carries. So it seems like it's often less about the technical 'how many genders am I attracted to' question and more about which identity group they want to associate with. *shrugs* Link to post Share on other sites
Celyn: The Lutening Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 @Homer and TheAP (sorry, it's not tagging you) Bi does indeed mean two. Bisexual is when you are attracted to two kinds of people, your own gender, and NOT your own gender. So it's not necessarily transphobic, or erasing non-binary people. Link to post Share on other sites
TheAP Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 12 hours ago, Celyn said: @Homer and TheAP (sorry, it's not tagging you) Bi does indeed mean two. Bisexual is when you are attracted to two kinds of people, your own gender, and NOT your own gender. So it's not necessarily transphobic, or erasing non-binary people. Yeah, I've heard that definition too. I've heard different ones, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Dia Nicole Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 For me Bi means being attracted to two or more genders Pan means being attracted to someone based on personality regardless of gender or without recognizing gender I identify as bi because while I am open to relationships with pretty much anyone I still recognize and somewhat regard gender. I know that I do in a sense look for different things based on how I know the person identifies. Link to post Share on other sites
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