Skyler Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Hello Everyone. I am considering have gender nullification surgery. I was wondering has anyone on here ever had it? If so, what are the positives and negatives? What are the complications? Where did you have the surgery? Please give me as much info as possible. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SamwiseLovesLife Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Do you mind explaining what you mean by nullification surgery? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skyler Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 A type of surgery in which a part or all of the genitals are surgically removed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AVEN #1 fan Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Well, for AFAB experiences, check neutrois nonsense blog, Micah did it. for AFABs , there's different types of procedures, the surgeries are called hysterectomies and there's 4 kinds of them. Usually they are performed by am laparoscopy which is an very little invasive procedure. a few people get problems with the bladder after these surgeries though, they can't hold pee or they get infections or it hurts to pee. The procedures: (keep in mind that the removal of ovaries will force you to go throughout estrogen or androgen hormonal replacement if you want to maintain your bones healthy and not deal with menopausal symptoms like hot flashes). An oophorectomy is the removal only of the ovaries and will cause you menopause. I don't think they fully remove the vagina, they just close it bc the blood vessels, also usually the clitoris, labias, skene's and bartholin's glands are left behind. Some places consider removal of labias and clitoris genital mutilation. For AMABs, usually it's done an orchiectomy, the removal of the testicles and scrotum, this will also cause menopausal symptoms and you may have to take estrogen or androgen therapy. The penis can also be removed but some places consider it genital mutilation. Usually the prostate , seminal vesicles and cowper's glands are left over. You can have your prostate removed throughput an prostatectomy, but doctors don't like performing that as this can make you unable to hold urine anymore, get infections and permannet urinary pain. After the prostate is removed you will no more feel amazing anal pleassure. Your urethra can also be moved to an more feminine place if you ask for it. A Lot of people complain about urinary infections, peeing pain and inability to hold urine after these surgeries. Some places consider these surgeries genital mutilations and usually you need to seek therapy in order to get a certificate to do them. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Reluctant_Dragon Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 When I’m older, I definitely want gender nullification surgery, so it can help me feel more like who I am, rather than an agender person in a boys body. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_I Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hi all. Having obvious doubts about the idea, but still.. Same here, basically, just looking for more answers... Now that I'm a professional singer, I kinda wonder if my voice will change? I wouldn't want that since I've put many years of my life in that. Also, what about impact on health and life expectancy? I'm in my 30s and got a number of body parts that are already failing (my genitalia not on the list though). On a sidenote, I love my body. It got my mind through what I thought cannot end well, and I never even cared to help it back in any way. Hmmm.. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mezzo Forte Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Alex_I said: Hi all. Having obvious doubts about the idea, but still.. Same here, basically, just looking for more answers... Now that I'm a professional singer, I kinda wonder if my voice will change? I wouldn't want that since I've put many years of my life in that. Also, what about impact on health and life expectancy? I'm in my 30s and got a number of body parts that are already failing (my genitalia not on the list though). On a sidenote, I love my body. It got my mind through what I thought cannot end well, and I never even cared to help it back in any way. Hmmm.. Thoughts? The voice change depends on what you're doing hormonally. Introducing additional testosterone in your body would cause permanent changes to the voice if you never had the T levels to make your voice crack in the first place. Estrogen will not impact the voice though. If you go through with a procedure that removes your primary source of hormones, (total hysterectomy and oophorectomy, or an orchiectomy depending on your body,) then you will need to be prescribed/take hormones so that you do not risk issues like osteoporosis. (AFAB people have an option to do a hysterectomy without an oophorectomy so their bodies still produce estrogen, but no longer can have periods or carry children. Not so sure of AMAB options.) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keilah Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm looking into having this done as well. I'd get an orchiectomy first and see from there if I I want to go the rest of the way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anny O. Mous Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I didn't even know that there was such a thing... I may need a subtotal hysterectomy anyway due to health complications but the insurance company wants me to try birth control pills for a couple of months first... I always become extra moody and depressed during a certain time of the month. I'm now on anti-anxiety medication as a result. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Radifer Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 So much thanks to this thread. I've been wanting one of these for a while now and have been trying to figure out if it actually exists or not. (Keep getting remarks that it doesn't exist from friends and family which just make the whole ordeal even more stressful). Hope you get what you need! Any ideas on how much this would cost though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keilah Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 16 hours ago, Radifer said: So much thanks to this thread. I've been wanting one of these for a while now and have been trying to figure out if it actually exists or not. (Keep getting remarks that it doesn't exist from friends and family which just make the whole ordeal even more stressful). Hope you get what you need! Any ideas on how much this would cost though? Unfortunately there's no set price. How much you end up paying will depend on your assigned gender, where you live, your surgeon and their clinic/hospital, time off from work, if insurance is willing to play ball or not, the desired procedure, any complications, etc. There are sites out there dedicated to helping people looking for this kind of surgery. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_I Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi all, and my apologies, twice: 1. I totally forgot about my own post, and thanks everyone for their time to respond! 2. I'm actually male. Operation should be relatively cheap in my case, right?.. I even heard that selling testicles can earn me couple of hundreed bucks? Still, would my body function normally, or should I forget the word 'normality' the very minute the cut is done? Best regards-- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keilah Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 For the most part, your body would continue to function normally, albeit without any testosterone. There are a number of sites out there that can explain the side effects of lack of testosterone on the male body better than I can. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuniconciergeplastica Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 4/6/2017 at 4:34 AM, Skyler said: Hello Everyone. I am considering have gender nullification surgery. I was wondering has anyone on here ever had it? If so, what are the positives and negatives? What are the complications? Where did you have the surgery? Please give me as much info as possible. Did you had your surgery already ? The surgeon that i work with , he does this surgery here in Guadalajara you can contact me if you want @yuniconciergeplastics this is my instagram Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nylocke Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 So wait, guys get menopause too??? No wonder my mom did go against me getting the hysterectomy. She has many issues with her bladder probably because of that, but she told me it was because she had children prior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timewarp Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Nylocke said: So wait, guys get menopause too? Nope. Just gradually declining testosterone levels starting from the age of 30 or so. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olivegirl Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 i have had my penis and testicles removed and I now take estrogen and progesterone and have never felt better in my life!no vagina or labia and sex with my partner is great and i orgasim all the time!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 3:31 PM, timewarp said: Nope. Just gradually declining testosterone levels starting from the age of 30 or so. Actually, men do have their own menopause. It's called andropause. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acematt Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I had an orchiectomy back in 2004. Best decision I ever made in my life. For asexuals with a high libido who are not comfortable being that way due to the obvious conflict I would highly recommend it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just Somebody Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 8:28 PM, General said: Actually, men do have their own menopause. It's called andropause. Still, they're similar but not the same thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 7:41 AM, acematt said: For asexuals with a high libido who are not comfortable being that way due to the obvious conflict I would highly recommend it. Does that work with oophorectomy too? And also, if I remove just 1 ovary, will this have a significant impact or will the other likely make up for it? I'm considering to remove the whole thing but I don't care for lifelong HRT for my bone tissue, so I'm thinking twice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acematt Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 PoeciMeta I am not sure about that. Best thing to do is check with your doctor who can refer you to a specialist. But take it one step at a time. This is serious stuff that you cannot reverse. Best of luck in achieving your desired goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoeciMeta Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Thanks for your answer @acematt. I asked mainly because I want as little hormones as possible in my body, just the amount needed to keep my bones healthy - and I'm thinking about a hysto anyway. Of course it will be duly talked about with professionals first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DuranDuranfan Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 9:42 AM, PoeciMeta said: Does that work with oophorectomy too? And also, if I remove just 1 ovary, will this have a significant impact or will the other likely make up for it? I'm considering to remove the whole thing but I don't care for lifelong HRT for my bone tissue, so I'm thinking twice. You could still produce hormones on one ovary but maybe not as much as you normally would with both. So when your hormone levels start to decline, having one ovary may bring on perimenopause then full menopause a little earlier. I found out my late grandma had one ovary because of an ectopic pregnancy and her menopause started when she was 44, but for my mom, hers was a little bit later. I figure it’s because she still has both. Of course, this is just a theory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nylocke Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 4:28 PM, General said: Actually, men do have their own menopause. It's called andropause. Very fascinating, I never knew that. How does one deal with being told they are "too young" for such things and that they will "change their mind"??? Dunno about the AMAB crowd but the AFAB crowd has to deal with this a lot when it comes to any form of sterilization. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scars0904 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 7/23/2019 at 12:41 AM, acematt said: I had an orchiectomy back in 2004. Best decision I ever made in my life. For asexuals with a high libido who are not comfortable being that way due to the obvious conflict I would highly recommend it. Where? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenzie_ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 3:37 PM, Scars0904 said: Where? http://www.myorchie.com ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bethkamolski Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 If you are younger than 35, nullification might not be your best decision, because we all change as we grow older. If you're a male, you might want to try temporary castration, where you use a drug to lower and eliminate most of your testosterone. See how you feel and see if you really enjoy this state of being. It will make you a non-sexual being. You will lose erection ability and you won't even want to have sex. You won't think about sex, you'll be a nullified being. I know, I know, you just want to get it done and over with, but please try this first for a few months, then decide. Once you're actually nullified, you'll never be able to change your mind and go back the way things were, trust me, it'll never ever be like it was. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
This is just to reply to o Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) Don't know much about the actual surgery, but for amab people side effect wise, I don't see why it wouldn't basically be the same as vaginoplasty/vulvoplasty, which are surgeries that've been done thousands of times and are fairly well-documented (or at least more so than Nullo surgery). Basically, what I'm saying is that the only real side effect it will have on your overall body, in so far as your body will no longer naturally produce testosterone because your testicles will be gone. But as long as you're on hormone replacement therapy (which, if you're a transfeminine person considering GNS, I'm assuming you already are), you won't have many problems with this. You're already on T blockers and Estrogen so your body is basically already experiencing hormone levels similar to what they would be after surgery. If anything, the removal of your body's natural testosterone production will probably be a good thing overall for your health because then you can stop taking T blockers and go on a lower dose of Estrogen, meaning you'll experience less negative side effects from your medications! But beware that your body's Testosterone levels being at absolute zero (which is even lower than it is on T-blockers) may cause some problems and you may have to take a low dose Testosterone cream or something just to keep everything balanced. If you're a cis man or don't want to go on feminizing HRT for whatever reason, you basically just removed your body's main hormone source and you're going to need to take Testosterone (masculinizing HRT) for the rest of your life when you could have just kept naturally producing it. This isn't ideal for most, but if you feel like you really need this surgery and want your testicles removed so that you can be happy with yourself, I'm not gonna discourage you from going for it! Also I have no idea what the heck the guy above me is saying about nullification removing any aspect of sexuality you have. It won't. Sure, it will probably make your sex drive/libido drop quite a bit, especially at first, and that might take some time to recover and get used to, but tons of transfem people who've had bottom surgery are absolutely fine and able to be sexual how they want to be. The only thing that might actually fuck up your sex drive is if you don't go on any type of Hormone Replacement Therapy after losing your natural T production, which I seriously don't recommend as low hormones can have pretty bad side effects, especially over the years. Edited May 8, 2021 by This is just to reply to o 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarah-Sylvia Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 If someone does this type of surgery and doesn't receive hormones to compensate, it can lead to some health issues. So it's really important to consult doctors. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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