AceMissBehaving Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 hours ago, CBC said: Oooh I just remembered something. This is probably weird, but... gooseberry pie. đ My mum and I would pick gooseberries at one of our neighbours' houses when I was really little, they had a fuckload of gooseberry bushes in their backyard. It's amazing. I love gooseberry everything! We planted a bush that had just came to maturity right as we moved. The US needs to start getting behind gooseberry both as a fruit and flavor. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Traveler40 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Is Blackcurrant the same as BlackCap?  We love to visit Montana.  Eva Gates in Big Fork sells the most divine jams.  Black Cap is my favorite.  Huckleberry is quite popular too, but sweeter and not nearly as good imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryn2 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Currants are a bit like tiny grapes (whereas black caps are black raspberries). Â They are used a lot dried (like mini-raisins) in the US but preserves are less common. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryn2 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 That makes sense. Â I always wondered why the fresh ones tasted so different. Â Black caps and red caps are old-fashioned names for the various raspberries where I live. Â My parentsâ generation used them but I havenât heard anyone else say either in ages. Â Agreed that blackberries =/= black raspberries, although both are yummy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 We have marionberries, which are annoyingly just blackberries. I mean I love blackberries but just, like, call them blackberries please. đ  Never heard of black caps but I'd have assumed they were poisonous based on the name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryn2 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Iâd guess they got the name because when theyâre picked off the cane/stem they are like little hats? Â But thatâs just a guess. Â Must be regional. Â My parents grew up in the 1920âs near the NY/PA border; their parents (were first-generation immigrants, or) grew up in northern PA. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, ryn2 said: Must be regional.  My parents grew up in the 1920âs near the NY/PA border; their parents (were first-generation immigrants, or) grew up in northern PA. That area is so... culturally specific. đ Definitely a lot of regional phrases. I'm originally from Northern Wisconsin, so, similar issue but without the more religious influences of the East coast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QueerAroAce Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 How would you feel if you had a Fwb whose in the process of discovering their asexuality (they dont know their ace yet)/ experimenting with sexual stuff due to curiosity? Like their willing to try whatever you want but they dont want you to touching them (in their lower half), they dont get the same "release" as you, after doing the deed.    Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibali Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 If someone is upfront that they are experimenting and it really is fwb, everyone is being honest surely. Neither is tied. As for whether someone is ace or not, or is on some kind of scale that's something only they can label themselves with because only they know how they feel. Â Note that "release" is probably not the same for someone who is ace. There's a biological "release" for most people including aces, but in my own personal experience the best it made me feel was the meh side of ok. It didn't make me feel good or closer to someone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomoreworldslikethis Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) so, from the reading i've done on the threads for/by sexuals (mainly the sexual compromise & support thread), it seems to me that it is very very difficult---if not nigh-impossible---to maintain a healthy romantic relationship with someone who is sexual and has an average to high libido if you are asexual and sex-repulsed, regardless of how much love and trust is involved in the relationship. am i totally wrong in coming to this conclusion? i apologize if my interpretation of things is completely distorted---i am not in a good frame of mind at all right now (it is probably easy to surmise why). this is also my first post on AVEN, so i'm sure i messed something up. Edited September 3, 2019 by nomoreworldslikethis 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, nomoreworldslikethis said: so, from the reading i've done on the threads for/by sexuals (mainly the sexual compromise & support thread), it seems to me that it is very very difficult---if not nigh-impossible---to maintain a healthy romantic relationship with someone who is sexual and has an average to high libido if you are asexual and sex-repulsed, regardless of how much love and trust is involved in the relationship. am i totally wrong in coming to this conclusion? i apologize if my interpretation of things is completely distorted---i am not in a good frame of mind at all right now (it is probably easy to surmise why). this is also my first post on AVEN, so i'm sure i messed something up. It's certainly not easy. Very few sexual people can go forever without having sex, if some kind of compromise for sex with the asexual individual is off the table, some people have had luck with opening a relationship to allow for the sexual person to have other sexual partners if that is something people involved are comfortable with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Although my sex drive is high, my romanticism is off the charts. I was willing to be in a sexless relationship in the beginning when that's where my boyfriend's boundaries were, and still am in the future if it means I can be with him. Being with him is better than sex. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, xstatic âďžÂ°Ë* á( á )á said: Although my sex drive is high, my romanticism is off the charts.  x2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibali Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, xstatic âďžÂ°Ë* á( á )á said: Although my sex drive is high, my romanticism is off the charts. I was willing to be in a sexless relationship in the beginning when that's where my boyfriend's boundaries were, and still am in the future if it means I can be with him. Being with him is better than sex. For some it will be about the person, but be careful.  You don't know how you will feel in the future and whether you will start valuing sex more than the person.  I know now that I have always been asexual.  My ex ended up losing sight of me as a person and I left. He said valued me as a person again after i left but it was too late for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, alibali said: For some it will be about the person, but be careful.  You don't know how you will feel in the future and whether you will start valuing sex more than the person.  I know now that I have always been asexual.  My ex ended up losing sight of me as a person and I left. He said valued me as a person again after i left but it was too late for me. I'm 39. I've left behind a cheating husband, and was abandoned by another while in the hospital. Sex is so low on my list of importance. Trust. Trust is high.  Also, I'm sorry about your ex. My last husband pulled that shit with me too. He still chases after me, and we have a daughter so I'm forced to interact with him, but I get pretty angry when he tries to get back with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 @CBC yeah, we all have our line in the sand. I couldn't do without sensual touch. I need to be held, or to hold intimately. It would definitely break me if I couldn't have that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, CBC said: That's actually where/why I would encounter a problem... if I feel highly romantic towards someone, that increases the need to express it sexually, and it would make a sexless relationship harder. To stay in a relationship without sex I would basically need to have no romantic interest in my partner. Which is actually exactly what my marriage was like when we still considered ourselves to be a couple (don't anymore despite still sharing living quarters and not yet being legally divorced).  But yeah, I'm into the romance and that's why the sex is pretty much necessary. A highly romantic relationship without sex sounds horrible to me. Thatâs where I run into issues most with my husband. Iâm a highly romantic person, but not a sexual one. For him romantic feelings and sexual feelings are (as is typical) deeply tied together.  It can be a hard balance to strike when both people are highly romantically inclined, but one needs sex and the other no sex to maintain a solid connection. We seem to have found the sweet spot for equilibrium currently, but itâs like balancing on a ball, it requires constant mindfulness and effort to keep it there. I can easily understand it not being worth the trouble for most people. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthracite_Impreza Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 14 hours ago, nomoreworldslikethis said: am i totally wrong in coming to this conclusion? Nope, most sexuals aren't gonna be happy without sex, and forcing yourself into sex if you're repulsed is going to damage you mentally and emotionally. The two sides are simply incompatible, with no fault on either side. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowocollie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I don't think I've asked this yet, at least I hope not How often do sexuals/romantics experience attraction? For me (I identify as grey/demi), it's been quite rare. I've had two instances of notable romantic attraction (crushes), that formed under specific circumstances, and maybe three or four instances of aesthetic attraction coupled with very slight romantic interest ("maybe if I got to know them--"). It's been years since I've experienced that, however, and it was all in my late teens/early 20's. Anymore, I just don't give a darn. I've only ever been sexually attracted to one person, and it wasn't strong. It was one of the people I had a crush on.  I expect crushes don't happen all the time, but surely some form of romantic attraction is a fairly common occurrence for allos? What about sexual attraction? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, questdrivencollie said: I don't think I've asked this yet, at least I hope not How often do sexuals/romantics experience attraction? For me (I identify as grey/demi), it's been quite rare. I've had two instances of notable romantic attraction (crushes), that formed under specific circumstances, and maybe three or four instances of aesthetic attraction coupled with very slight romantic interest ("maybe if I got to know them--"). It's been years since I've experienced that, however, and it was all in my late teens/early 20's. Anymore, I just don't give a darn. I've only ever been sexually attracted to one person, and it wasn't strong. It was one of the people I had a crush on.  I expect crushes don't happen all the time, but surely some form of romantic attraction is a fairly common occurrence for allos? What about sexual attraction? I think that will vary greatly from person to person. For me, I don't experience a lot of that aesthetic attraction towards men or masc presenting peeps, But I very much appreciate the female aesthetic and androgeny. However I tend to get romantically entangled with men more often than women. I haven't had a lot of relationships, but they're usually long lasting. But whoever I'm attracted to romantically, I feel that attraction often. Like several times a day currently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowocollie Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I guess a better wording for the question is, how often do you feel attracted to others? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 34 minutes ago, questdrivencollie said: I guess a better wording for the question is, how often do you feel attracted to others? Iâm a pretty romantic person I think, and I honestly donât have a clue how to answer that. I guess it doesnât take up a huge amount of my thoughts. Iâve also been married for almost 17 years so not like Iâve been looking.  I think people greatly over estimate the amount of attraction that happens over all for adults. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibali Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Presumably its more frequently than my answer which is never.  I still like some people more than others and seek their company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cupid69 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 4:04 AM, nomoreworldslikethis said: Â x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cupid69 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 9:40 AM, alibali said: Â x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Apostle said: Just goes to show that sexuals and asexuals will never really have a happy relationship as there will always be the elephant in the room, so to speak. Most asexuals do not realise how much a sexual relationship means to the sexual. Physical sex is part of the relationship, merging body and soul just as sometimes, and I see it a lot on these posts, romance is an important part of other relationships where sex is deemed unimportant or unnecessary and can supersede other aspects to the point of breaking up a relationship. Mixed relationships are difficult to be sure, but I donât agree that they can never  be happy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, AceMissBehaving said: Mixed relationships are difficult to be sure, but I donât agree that they can never  be happy. Hard same. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cupid69 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 1:41 PM, AceMissBehaving said: Â x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AceMissBehaving Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Apostle said: Maybe, but I suspect an extremely small proportion of mixed relationships. Unfortunately, the sexual has had part of who they are dismissed by their partner and that would really hurt deep inside, even if they don't convey this to their asexual partner. It may be a good question to ask all sexuals on this website as to how they cope and whether they are really happy with their relationship or are they just accepting their fate? Well ouch. I dare say the number isnât huge,  but I suspect probably higher than people might think.  My husband I are are happy together. There are times when either my being ace or him being sexual will cause some sadness, but itâs not that often these days. In the beginning we kept things from each other to try spare feelings, but we can tell when something is off with the other. In the end the revelation was simply âsometimes weâll feel sad, and thatâs okâ. So we talk, we comfort, we move on.  Interestingly enough I only know 2 other couples who have been together, married for a long  time, and still clearly deeply affectionate with each other. One of those is an ace/sexual mixed relationship too. So in my friend circle alone thatâs 2 mixed couples making it work. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xstatic Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Apostle said: It may be a good question to ask all sexuals on this website as to how they cope and whether they are really happy with their relationship or are they just accepting their fate? Happy. Very very happy. But y'all knew that about me already. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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