Kink, BDSM, and Cake

[svrn]

6 hours ago, EclipseChild said:

Has anybody played D&D using an expansion called "Kinks & Cantrips"? I just heard about it hours ago and I'm stunned, because I was considering finding rope-kinky content for D&D and just randomly stumbled across a video about this while looking up generic D&D stuff. From the video I saw, I already know, however, that this book definitely includes sexual content (Alpha and Omega species, for example, and the guy said he couldn't show much of the artwork on YouTube) and I certainly don't want that in D&D, but does anyone who has bought the book know how much of its content can be used without sexual implications?

 

(I will likely make a longer post later, it is late at the time I'm posting this)

I've never heard of it, but it sounds interesting! I just hope that "Alpha and Omega species" doesn't turn out to be as terrible as it sounds...

[EclipseChild]

On 3/9/2025 at 12:16 AM, EclipseChild said:

I will likely make a longer post later

So, after finding out about Kinks & Cantrips and mulling thoughts in my head, I'm not sure why I was so stunned about hearing it. While I am interested in some of its contents, I'm mostly nudity-adverse and would only want a "abridged" version of it skipping past the sexual stuff. Unfortunately, it defines kink as "...In short, kink can and does encompass a wide range of desires, with the only limitation being its relation to sexuality." Because of that, anything in the book could contain sexual content I'm adverse to viewing, and looking at the table of contents, I don't actually know if any of the subclass options are restraint-oriented. (Subclasses that are included in the book are a wax-themed Monk, a hypnosis Warlock, a latex-themed Ranger, and a "Null Visage Rogue", among dozens of others)

 

For me, I personally think I like the idea of being tied up, with some element of pain from someone or something tugging on the restraints, but I haven't yet actually experienced or attended a BDSM session, and I don't think I'll be able too anytime soon due to social anxiety among other factors. Despite that, I was previously trying to work out a D&D subclass themed around that kind of restraint (and struggling, because getting restrained is normally not a good tactical decision in combat), and I guess my question is "Am I getting ahead of myself?".

 

I thought I was going to have a lot more to say, but I guess I got stuck on that question.

[m38]

i have a little confession to make.

 

my sub has a self-esteem lower than floor, so during our sessions i tell them to say self-affirmation phrases out loud, like "i'm a good person", "i deserve to be treated with love and respect", you name it. i reward them when they speak, and deny them pleasure when they refuse to speak.

idk if it's a good thing to do, but i couldn't find any other way to get that person to talk self-affirmation, other than through bdsm.

[Ceebs]

On 3/14/2025 at 5:16 AM, m38 said:

idk if it's a good thing to do, but i couldn't find any other way to get that person to talk self-affirmation, other than through bdsm.

Have you asked them how they feel about it, if they're getting anything positive from it? I would think that checking in with them about it would be pretty important. When we think about things like checking in, and of course consent, we often think about the more physically intense aspects of kink (and obviously anything that's overtly sexual), but something like what you described undoubtedly carries a lot of emotional weight if this person struggles greatly with their self-esteem, so potentially these self-affirmations could be really difficult for them or make them feel uncomfortable.

 

I'm not saying they do or that you're doing anything wrong -- hopefully it's something that's positive for them, and for you as well -- but just curious if you've talked about it since you said you didn't know if it was a good thing to do.

 

(Personally I don't think it would work for me, unfortunately. 😂 I have pretty shit self-esteem, but incorporating positive affirmations into BDSM would turn me right off lol. I do actually get positive feelings from the types of things we say though, in a kind of roundabout or backwards way. I like language that's a bit derogatory or degrading -- NOT outright nasty for sure, though -- because coming from a place of sexual shame in the past, it manages to be oddly empowering, like embracing parts of myself I felt were bad.)

[m38]

3 hours ago, Mrs Telecaster-to-be said:

Have you asked them how they feel about it, if they're getting anything positive from it? I would think that checking in with them about it would be pretty important. When we think about things like checking in, and of course consent, we often think about the more physically intense aspects of kink (and obviously anything that's overtly sexual), but something like what you described undoubtedly carries a lot of emotional weight if this person struggles greatly with their self-esteem, so potentially these self-affirmations could be really difficult for them or make them feel uncomfortable.

we talk about this, yeah. and they say they're fine with me basically making them say stuff they struggle with believing in.. they thank me for this from time to time, as well.

it's difficult, honestly. because they often end up crying their eyes out. i make sure to comfort them, both during and after session.. lots of hugs, pet names (they like it), etc.

i don't do anything without their consent, though. and i check in a lot, because they also struggle with saying safe words, so checking in is important.

[Ceebs]

Ok, glad to hear it sounds like it's working out for both of you then. Things like that can bring up big feelings of course, so crying isn't a bad thing if they're consenting.

[MinnieMouse]

Hi, 

 

Nowadays I often fantasize about power play and bondage, and I've noticed that my fantasies have gotten more and more intense lately. In my fantasies I'm a dominant and the person I'm aesthetically and emotionally (romantically or alterous – I'e never felt sexual attraction towards anyone.) attracted to is a submissive. As a sex-averse person there are no naked bodies, no genitals and no intercourse in my fantasies, but the thought of having a dom/sub relationship does in fact increase my libido. It's all in my head though, and I have no desire to do this in real life. 

 

Can anyone relate to this? 

[Vero Totem]

25 minutes ago, MinnieMouse said:

Hi, 

 

Nowadays I often fantasize about power play and bondage, and I've noticed that my fantasies have gotten more and more intense lately. In my fantasies I'm a dominant and the person I'm aesthetically and emotionally (romantically or alterous – I'e never felt sexual attraction towards anyone.) attracted to is a submissive. As a sex-averse person there are no naked bodies, no genitals and no intercourse in my fantasies, but the thought of having a dom/sub relationship does in fact increase my libido. It's all in my head though, and I have no desire to do this in real life. 

 

Can anyone relate to this? 

I'm a bit of the opposite.  I'm a sub that prefers cuffs, straps, or scarves as opposed to rope.  I don't fantasize and I don't have an increase in libido.  I went to one bondage meetup in my area and liked the demonstration about safe play.  It was a queer friendly atmosphere and there were people who actually cheered when I introduced myself as ace.  Outside of the meetup and going to sleep with my wrists bound either to each other or with just leather cuffs on, I haven't really done a lot of bondage play.  In that sense, my desire for bondage is mostly in my head.  Trying to find a playmate I can trust is the part that keeps me from doing it more often.

[batmmann5]

I can relate in some ways, but yes I do this in real life.  She ties me and I am usually naked, but she is clothed.  It isn't sexual.  I love rope bondage and other kinds of bondage.  It is just fun.  I host rope nights and I had a rope dojo built in my backyard.  You aren't alone in desiring this.  I will say most play parties and rope gatherings are not sexual.  BD/SM is actually a good outlet for asexuals.  Brian

[MinnieMouse]

On 4/4/2025 at 2:25 AM, batmmann5 said:

I can relate in some ways, but yes I do this in real life.  She ties me and I am usually naked, but she is clothed.  It isn't sexual.  I love rope bondage and other kinds of bondage.  It is just fun.  I host rope nights and I had a rope dojo built in my backyard.  You aren't alone in desiring this.  I will say most play parties and rope gatherings are not sexual.  BD/SM is actually a good outlet for asexuals.  Brian

Yeah, it seems to be a good outlet. It’s not only the fact that my power play fantasies increases my libido. During the last two months I’ve been experiencing a significant increase in libido in general (probably due to hormone changes) and I’ve started letting it out by reading power play stories that Chat GPT writes for me. Chat GPT isn’t allowed to write anything sexual, so this suits me perfectly. No unwanted details in the stories. 😄

 

I still don’t think I would like to make reality out of my fantasies, but you should never say never, I guess. 

[calibri]

On 4/3/2025 at 1:30 PM, MinnieMouse said:

Hi, 

 

Nowadays I often fantasize about power play and bondage, and I've noticed that my fantasies have gotten more and more intense lately. In my fantasies I'm a dominant and the person I'm aesthetically and emotionally (romantically or alterous – I'e never felt sexual attraction towards anyone.) attracted to is a submissive. As a sex-averse person there are no naked bodies, no genitals and no intercourse in my fantasies, but the thought of having a dom/sub relationship does in fact increase my libido. It's all in my head though, and I have no desire to do this in real life. 

 

Can anyone relate to this? 

Most of my fantasies are also in my head too. I'm more of a switch but would love to dom a submissive person or a person in a submissive role. Rope is my top kink, I even took that bdsm test and got rope rigger and rope bunny as my top 2. Like this picture here ? Arrow through the heart for real. The aesthetics of it makes me floaty in the head and if I could do it with someone I am also romantically involved with (or an alterous kink relationship) then that would be so wonderful. Im sex indifferent so I can also do a scene without sex, would probably prefer it really. And if I'm aroused I can handle it after the scene with toys on my own and or incorporate it into the scene if my partner is willing. But rope aesthetics, power & control, skin to skin non sexual contact are my main thoughts truly. One day I will practice my rope skills and master it it seems so fun. 

[MinnieMouse]

3 hours ago, s_f said:

Most of my fantasies are also in my head too. I'm more of a switch but would love to dom a submissive person or a person in a submissive role. Rope is my top kink, I even took that bdsm test and got rope rigger and rope bunny as my top 2. Like this picture here ? Arrow through the heart for real. The aesthetics of it makes me floaty in the head and if I could do it with someone I am also romantically and or alterously attracted too (another alterous attratuon person heyyy 👋🏾👋🏾) then that would be so wonderful. Im sex indifferent so I can also do a scene without sex, would probably prefer it really. And if I'm aroused I can handle it after the scene with toys on my own and or incorporate it into the scene if my partner is willing. But rope aesthetics, power & control, skin to skin non sexual contact are my main thoughts truly. One day I will practice my rope skills and master it it seems so fun. 

Thank you for sharing your experiences! Now I feel valid again. 🤗

[slywlf]

As an aegosexual and aegoromatic, all my "attractions" are theoretical, and involve characters from TV or movies - just the characters, not the actors - and someone who is a sort of stand-in for me, not "me". It took ages to figure this out, but once I found my labels I was finally able to relax and enjoy my fantasies. That said, kink is my sexuality - in that I get aroused by thoughts of kinky behaviors - none include actual sex. Lately, thanks to a dear friend who spent much of her life involved in kink, and who became my mentor, I am slowly getting involved with it in real life. The dynamic is quite different from my delicious forbidden fantasies, and I don't get the arousal in the same way, but it is still fulfilling in its own way. So far I have sampled rope play (loved it far more than I had expected!), fire play - fun, but not very exciting TBH - impact play at different levels of intensity - so far I haven't had to call red - and electro play - not enough to really know but enough that I wouldn't turn down the chance to play further with the right partner.

All that said, my go-to fantasies still work, so I feel like I've got the best of both worlds!

[MinnieMouse]

13 hours ago, slywlf said:

As an aegosexual and aegoromatic, all my "attractions" are theoretical, and involve characters from TV or movies - just the characters, not the actors - and someone who is a sort of stand-in for me, not "me". It took ages to figure this out, but once I found my labels I was finally able to relax and enjoy my fantasies. That said, kink is my sexuality - in that I get aroused by thoughts of kinky behaviors - none include actual sex. Lately, thanks to a dear friend who spent much of her life involved in kink, and who became my mentor, I am slowly getting involved with it in real life. The dynamic is quite different from my delicious forbidden fantasies, and I don't get the arousal in the same way, but it is still fulfilling in its own way. So far I have sampled rope play (loved it far more than I had expected!), fire play - fun, but not very exciting TBH - impact play at different levels of intensity - so far I haven't had to call red - and electro play - not enough to really know but enough that I wouldn't turn down the chance to play further with the right partner.

All that said, my go-to fantasies still work, so I feel like I've got the best of both worlds!

That really sounds like the best of two worlds!! 🤩 With a me that isn’t really you, do you mean like some kind of alter ego? I am me in my fantasies, but I don’t act like I would do in real life and I never see my own face or body in my fantasies. It’s like I don’t have an appearance. 

[slywlf]

On 4/8/2025 at 10:25 AM, MinnieMouse said:

That really sounds like the best of two worlds!! 🤩 With a me that isn’t really you, do you mean like some kind of alter ego? I am me in my fantasies, but I don’t act like I would do in real life and I never see my own face or body in my fantasies. It’s like I don’t have an appearance. 

Exactly! The character standing in for me may not have an appearance at all, or in any case doesn't resemble me in any tangible way. Sort of an imaginary person who acts out the scenario on my behalf. 

[svrn]

On 4/8/2025 at 2:50 AM, slywlf said:

That said, kink is my sexuality - in that I get aroused by thoughts of kinky behaviors - none include actual sex.

This so much.

[seasoning_packet_65]

I might as well go ahead and introduce myself now while it's on my mind...

 

I've been contemplating for some time and I think kink/BDSM might be something I'd be into although I have very little real-life experience with it.  I have strong interest in trying some things but also decent concerns with staying safe and secure, mainly with the internet (thus my hesitancy to post here).  I'm not looking to ask a specific question at the moment, I just would like a community with shared interest.  Just get familiarized with things before I actually start engaging in real life, if I get the chance.

 

It looks like this place is semi-active and I hope to get to converse with y'all some time in the future.

[slywlf]

18 hours ago, seasoning_packet_65 said:

I might as well go ahead and introduce myself now while it's on my mind...

 

I've been contemplating for some time and I think kink/BDSM might be something I'd be into although I have very little real-life experience with it.  I have strong interest in trying some things but also decent concerns with staying safe and secure, mainly with the internet (thus my hesitancy to post here).  I'm not looking to ask a specific question at the moment, I just would like a community with shared interest.  Just get familiarized with things before I actually start engaging in real life, if I get the chance.

 

It looks like this place is semi-active and I hope to get to converse with y'all some time in the future.

Welcome! This is a friendly and safe space for questions and discussions. Once you haver decided to look further, another good option is FetLife, which has a group called Asexual and Kinky, which also is a good source of interaction, and joining is free and anonymous - just pick a name, set up your profile with as much or little detail as feels comfortable to you, and explore. I've been a member for many years, and it's a bit crazier than here - no training wheels, so to speak LOL, but you'll find that the kink world has more aspec folks than you might imagine. Reddit is another useful option - as an older aegosexual I have become sort of an elder statesman, helping newbies find their footing, as they navigate the new world they are entering.

[batmmann5]

20 hours ago, seasoning_packet_65 said:

I might as well go ahead and introduce myself now while it's on my mind...

 

I've been contemplating for some time and I think kink/BDSM might be something I'd be into although I have very little real-life experience with it.  I have strong interest in trying some things but also decent concerns with staying safe and secure, mainly with the internet (thus my hesitancy to post here).  I'm not looking to ask a specific question at the moment, I just would like a community with shared interest.  Just get familiarized with things before I actually start engaging in real life, if I get the chance.

 

It looks like this place is semi-active and I hope to get to converse with y'all some time in the future.

Welcome to the group.  Also, just to add, there are like 7,000 members in the Asexual and Kinky Group on Fetlife and many discussions.  This group is good, but not nearly as active.  Brian

[seasoning_packet_65]

4 hours ago, slywlf said:

Welcome! This is a friendly and safe space for questions and discussions. Once you haver decided to look further, another good option is FetLife, which has a group called Asexual and Kinky, which also is a good source of interaction, and joining is free and anonymous - just pick a name, set up your profile with as much or little detail as feels comfortable to you, and explore. I've been a member for many years, and it's a bit crazier than here - no training wheels, so to speak LOL, but you'll find that the kink world has more aspec folks than you might imagine. Reddit is another useful option - as an older aegosexual I have become sort of an elder statesman, helping newbies find their footing, as they navigate the new world they are entering.

I briefly looked at FetLife and it was asking for some info to set up a profile that I don't yet feel comfortable putting online, so I think I'm gonna wait a few years maybe before setting up an account.

 

Other than searching for local community, what other things do y'all recommend for getting started?  Just to get a general idea

[slywlf]

On 7/26/2025 at 11:55 PM, seasoning_packet_65 said:

I briefly looked at FetLife and it was asking for some info to set up a profile that I don't yet feel comfortable putting online, so I think I'm gonna wait a few years maybe before setting up an account.

 

Other than searching for local community, what other things do y'all recommend for getting started?  Just to get a general idea

Depending on where you are, finding local munches might be tricky without an online presence like FetLife to help find them, but they are a great way to start. These are like social hangouts, where you don't have to give your real name - many use their Fet name on the name tags - and you can chat about your interests in a safe and calm environment, once you are ready for face to face. Nothing actually "happens" at a munch - just chatting.

[seasoning_packet_65]

1 hour ago, slywlf said:

Depending on where you are, finding local munches might be tricky without an online presence like FetLife to help find them, but they are a great way to start. These are like social hangouts, where you don't have to give your real name - many use their Fet name on the name tags - and you can chat about your interests in a safe and calm environment, once you are ready for face to face. Nothing actually "happens" at a munch - just chatting.

I'll be sure to keep those in mind!

[Skittles87]

Hiya, I've never really thought of myself as a kinkster but, erm...

 

I'm a writer, and I write in pretty much every genre. I wrote a short story that was decidedly kinky in a non-sexual way (BDSM stuff with an ace character) and posted it online, thinking maybe someone somewhere would enjoy it. Clearly someone did because they offered me money to write more. Having someone offer me money for work I haven't even written yet is so far from my usual experience as a writer that I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But maybe there's a gap in the market for non-sexual kink stories, or maybe I've just found my calling! Either way, I'm excited about it. 

 

I want to write more but I feel clueless. Whenever I start to write in a new genre the first thing I do is read a tonne of books and short stories, but it seems like all the kinky stories are erotica and that's not what I want to write. Can anyone recommend kinky stories that are wholly or mostly non-sexual? I'll take kink-adjacent (e.g. subtext rather than text) if that's all there is. 

 

I'm also trying to educate myself because I've seen too many writers with no knowledge or interest in the kink community just shove a bunch of "good girl" and "harder daddy" in their straight romances and it makes me cringe. I've been watching Evie Lupine's videos because I saw someone recommend them on another thread, but if anyone has other resources about non-sexual kink that they would recommend, I'd be very grateful.

[Frameshift07]

21 minutes ago, Skittles87 said:

it seems like all the kinky stories are erotica and that's not what I want to write. Can anyone recommend kinky stories that are wholly or mostly non-sexual?

How does that work?

[RandomAce8701]

1 hour ago, Skittles87 said:

Hiya, I've never really thought of myself as a kinkster but, erm...

 

I'm a writer, and I write in pretty much every genre. I wrote a short story that was decidedly kinky in a non-sexual way (BDSM stuff with an ace character) and posted it online, thinking maybe someone somewhere would enjoy it. Clearly someone did because they offered me money to write more. Having someone offer me money for work I haven't even written yet is so far from my usual experience as a writer that I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But maybe there's a gap in the market for non-sexual kink stories, or maybe I've just found my calling! Either way, I'm excited about it. 

 

I want to write more but I feel clueless. Whenever I start to write in a new genre the first thing I do is read a tonne of books and short stories, but it seems like all the kinky stories are erotica and that's not what I want to write. Can anyone recommend kinky stories that are wholly or mostly non-sexual? I'll take kink-adjacent (e.g. subtext rather than text) if that's all there is. 

 

I'm also trying to educate myself because I've seen too many writers with no knowledge or interest in the kink community just shove a bunch of "good girl" and "harder daddy" in their straight romances and it makes me cringe. I've been watching Evie Lupine's videos because I saw someone recommend them on another thread, but if anyone has other resources about non-sexual kink that they would recommend, I'd be very grateful.

Careful, it might be a scam.

 

1 hour ago, Frameshift07 said:

How does that work?

Well to take S&M for a start, there are at least 5 different motivations for masochism, probably more. They might be looking for an altered state of mind. They might want the achievement that comes from finding you can actually take a lot more than you thought - especially if it's an excuse for a hug afterwards. Or to impress somebody else, though obviously macho can be toxic. They might want a situation so intense that the constant worries just go away because there's no space for them; it might be cathexis. It might just be self-understanding. It might be a way to connect intimately in an emotional and physical sense with somebody while maintaining clear boundaries (if you're lucky). It might be a way of exploring trust. It might be a ritual (e.g. as part of a relationship). It might be part of a compromise ace/allo relationship (though it probably isn't enough on its own). It might just be fun, exploring trust and boundaries in what hopefully is a relatively safe environment (a lot of kink is relatively safe, whereas e.g. unprotected sex is not, but whether you can rely on safety at a play party, or worse a private date, is another question). It might be an autistic special interest; mine always seem to be mixed up with anxieties! It might be a way to meet people, a community (again safety issues are important). It might be creative, especially with bondage or predicaments. It could be performative; rope is an art form. It might be a game.

 

And so on.

 

And yes, you might get off on it. Though that's less common than you might think. It was a big worry for me when I started going to play parties, many years ago. (Since Covid I've been very careful and entirely out of kink). What both pain and bondage felt like was fascinating, but not often erotic, for me, though that may be a grey issue, and related to context. On the other hand, thinking about scenes, planning them, writing about them, watching them (in private), can be far more erotic than carrying out the exact scene in real life (again depending on the context). Some of that might mean I'd be happier as a top, but it ain't happening at the moment.

Bondage can be relaxing, though often there are physical limitations such as rising temperatures with heavy bondage (e.g. sleep sacks) and sudden leg/foot cramps etc.

 

But sure, you do tend to get into grey areas, sure, including with grey aces.

 

D&S relationships can be sexual, but aren't always; "lifestyle" D&S tends to have some sexual element because it's a form of relationship, but equally D&S might be something you meet up for periodically. I have less understanding of that than my very limited understanding of bondage and S&M play.

 

Personally when I've written kinky porn (which I tend to delete very quickly!) it usually ends up with somebody being recruited into some shadowy organization! But arguably there's some sexual element in it; I'm grey, partly because of being repulsed by the canonical sex acts, and what I wrote tended to feature edge play and consent issues but not penetration. So it's partly mixed up with how you define sex too.

 

PS in light of recent UK legislation it is worrying that I can chat here about these things and haven't been asked to prove my age yet... I hope we don't have to take down The Grey Area to stay within the rules.

[Skittles87]

56 minutes ago, RandomAce8701 said:

Careful, it might be a scam.

I'll tread carefully, though I would be surprised. I'm still on Twitter so I'm often approached by "make money with your writing" scammers and they tend to have a certain tone. This person seemed to have a lot of unfeigned enthusiasm!

 

59 minutes ago, RandomAce8701 said:

Personally when I've written kinky porn (which I tend to delete very quickly!) it usually ends up with somebody being recruited into some shadowy organization!

Hehe, love this!

[svrn]

On 8/30/2025 at 5:10 PM, Skittles87 said:

Can anyone recommend kinky stories that are wholly or mostly non-sexual?

I don't remember all the details from Love and Leashes, but I think it was mostly non-sexual.

[Kay28]

(Edit: Just realized I actually asked this here years ago, though I didn't get any replies. The gender aspect is new, anyway.)

 

Anyone else out there only (or mostly) turned on by the idea of sex as part of a kink dynamic? The thought of having vanilla sex mostly doesn't do much for me (though I'm grey-ace, so there has been the rare person). I guess it does kind of make sense, in as much as I enjoy the physical sensations and sex is a relatively common part of BDSM scenes, but I'm wondering how common it is among ace-spec people to feel this way.

 

(TBH, it's possible I'm just aegosexual and this has no practical application for me. After realizing I'm genderfluid and figuring out the details of that, though, I'm starting to realize that my fantasies being populated by people other than me may have something to do with my mental image of myself often not being aligned with my actual appearance, among other things.)

[slywlf]

17 hours ago, Kay28 said:

(Edit: Just realized I actually asked this here years ago, though I didn't get any replies. The gender aspect is new, anyway.)

 

Anyone else out there only (or mostly) turned on by the idea of sex as part of a kink dynamic? The thought of having vanilla sex mostly doesn't do much for me (though I'm grey-ace, so there has been the rare person). I guess it does kind of make sense, in as much as I enjoy the physical sensations and sex is a relatively common part of BDSM scenes, but I'm wondering how common it is among ace-spec people to feel this way.

 

(TBH, it's possible I'm just aegosexual and this has no practical application for me. After realizing I'm genderfluid and figuring out the details of that, though, I'm starting to realize that my fantasies being populated by people other than me may have something to do with my mental image of myself often not being aligned with my actual appearance, among other things.)

Aegosexual 71F here, and I do understand your perspective. The only time even in my fantasies that the idea of sexual activity is remotely palatable is in a kink setting. Generally I am sex repulsed, so while I can tolerate some sexual context in my kinky imaginings, it rarely results in a full blown sex act, though lots of non-PIV and non-insertion stuff is perfectly acceptable and arousing. Hope that helps! 

 

[Skittles87]

On 8/31/2025 at 9:16 PM, svrn said:

I don't remember all the details from Love and Leashes, but I think it was mostly non-sexual.

Thanks for this, I have been meaning to watch more Korean stuff lately!