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What are your political beliefs?


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How you define yourself politically?  

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    • Ultra Conservative or Libertarian
      18
    • Strong Conservative
      8
    • Moderate Conservative
      10
    • Centrist Leaning Conservative
      4
    • Moderate or Pragmatist
      14
    • Centrist Leaning Liberal
      15
    • Moderate Liberal
      33
    • Strong Liberal
      44
    • Ultra Liberal or Socialistic
      41
    • Indifferent
      31

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qecantilles

I'm what one would call a 6 0ut of 8 liberal. On the major issues that divide USA politics I am liberal on six of them as follows:

military- the only purpose for our military is to defend the homeland if it is attacked. for example, I see Iraq as us invading them illegally. L

economy - I am basically a socialist. We should all work for the better of society rather than to acheive our own personal wealth. L

environment - I side with the republicans on this issue. We should not completely destroy our environment, but we should not sacrafice thousands of jobs for it either. R

abortion - a non issue. should not even come up in political debates because it is a pointless argument. There is not enough people on either side to make significant changes to the current laws. L

gun control - we do not need automatic weapons. If you want to keep your hunting rifle, that's fine, but handguns and automatic weapons need to go. L

religion - religion has no place in politics. and politics has no place in relgion. the two should be seperate entities. L

gay rights - everyone has the right to love who they want to love. period. L

union - I am completely anti-union. The fact that union workers are so overpayed for doing so little work is one of the reasons we're getting killed by foreign labor. R

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Dame du Lac

I didn't vote because I can't see how libertarian and ultra conservative are linked.

I am fairly libertarian in that I believe that:

All consenting adults should be able to do what they wish in private and when it does not affect children or anyone else who does not wish to be involved. That includes drinking themselves to death, taking drugs, bizarre sex acts, living in multi-partner relationships, living in crowded conditions whilst they save money, or whatever.

Government should play a minimal role in business. There needs to be some regulation to prevent exploitation of workers, but people should be able to negotiate their own contracts. Governments should also not use taxpayers money to keep big business afloat. If workers need training to bring their skills up to date, then employers should train them and pay for that training.

All members of the military forces should be there because they have voluntary joined up. The military should be a defensive, not offensive, institution.

All tax breaks and tax credits should be scrapped. Reduce taxes, and don't tax the poor in the first place. Why do we tax people earning £6k per annum and then expect them to fill in loads of forms to get a bit back? Have a flat rate tax; start it at earnings from £15k. Government should not be using taxes to encourage lifestyle choices such as marriage or buying a house rather than renting.

Make schools and hospitals independent. A one-size-fits-all systems does not work.

Ways I am not particularly libertarian:

Guns. We don't need them unless we are farmers. Most Brits are not farmers and therefore have no need to shoot anything.

Looking after those who can't look after themselves. I am not cruel; I would not like to see people dying because they are unable to work. I would, however, like provision to be made locally. That way it can be personalised, geared towards people's needs and have some human warmth to it. Only stupid people would not contribute to helping others in need, because only stupid people would not think that they might be in that position one day.

Protecting children. Parents should be primarily responsible for their children and be left to look after them. But I do think that Government should have a role in protecting the vulnerable and should have the right to remove children who are being mistreated. They should do so more transparently than they do now to avoid destroying families unnecessarily.

Equality. Unfortunately, not everyone believes in equality so this needs to be enshrined in law and enforced.

When I vote, I vote for who is least bad or to help prevent extremists getting their deposits back. There is no party in the UK that represents my views.

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Guns. We don't need them unless we are farmers. Most Brits are not farmers and therefore have no need to shoot anything.

Why farmers? What do farmers need to shoot?

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Guns. We don't need them unless we are farmers. Most Brits are not farmers and therefore have no need to shoot anything.

Why farmers? What do farmers need to shoot?

People who steal their strawberries.

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Guns. We don't need them unless we are farmers. Most Brits are not farmers and therefore have no need to shoot anything.

Why farmers? What do farmers need to shoot?

People who steal their strawberries.

:blink: :lol:

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Strong Liberal is what mostly suits me, but I have some Libertarian values. I vote Green Party in the Canadian elections because, even if they don't win, I think they need more seats.

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I am strongly left-wing i.e I vote Labour in ANZ: it is confusing to have this described as 'liberal" - my goodness, each country in Western democracies

has such different terminology eh?

The first poster in the survey sumarised mainly why I vote as I do; I grew up in a mildly socialistic state, and still prefer that climate to a dog-eat-dog

wholly 'free market' liberteranz style political state as espoused by some here.

O: 'guns for farmers'. 3 groups of people are legitimate firearms owners in ANZ: hunters (of introduced mammal & bird species - many of these have become great pests. I am a backyard hunter because both possums and red deer, magpies & starlings, cause problems in my area.) Farmers, for hunting reasons, and putting down injured stock. And the enlisted military, and AOS (police armed offenders' squads - ANZ police traditionally do not carry firearms..)

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To have a firearms licence in ANZ you must:

1)have both family & non-family referees;

2)be interviewed by local police, and pass both a written & oral exam, and

3)have an approved gun-safe, or other approved means of keeping your firearms beyond casual access.

There is, regrettably, a large number of unregistered gunowners (paticularly within gangs - they rely on stolen weapons.) Pistols and revolvers are uncommon here (mainly leftover from WW2) and to own/use these, the arms exam/referees & gun-security measures go up exponentially-

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Dame du Lac
Guns. We don't need them unless we are farmers. Most Brits are not farmers and therefore have no need to shoot anything.

Why farmers? What do farmers need to shoot?

I believe its still the norm for farmers to have shotguns to shoot predators and crop eating birds.

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None of the options on the poll really seem to fit my political beliefs -_-

My biggest political concern in the UK is the increasing power of the PM and the House of Commons, and that the electorate now hold too much sway over government, leading to too much populism all round. I'd rather that the monarch hold more power to counteract that, along with more power for a House of Lords that relies on peers who aren't appointed by the Commons. We seem to have an increasing trend toward "presidential" style PM's, and that won't end well.

In terms of actual policies I tend toward "big government" and tight economic controls and moderate social policies. I don't think the government should be concerning itself with how people marry and whether or not they did naught things in bed before having their wedding rings placed on their fingers and being blessed by a priest, but I think there needs to be improved policing and a stronger sense of social responsibility and awareness amongst the general population.

I'm actually a very political animal so have quite detailed stances on most things, but this post is long enough already!

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I'm a libertarian socialist...looks like I'm screwed on this poll. <_< [goes off and irritatedly drinks some tea]

All those who think libertarianism or conservatism is great should be sentenced to living in the US and making $10/hour. Try making it without any help while you watch rich people enjoying themselves on your work product.

I would be happy making that much an hour...but I suppose I shouldn't complain when I'm still making well above Kansas' minimum wage of $2,65/hour.

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I'm a libertarian socialist...looks like I'm screwed on this poll

Coincidentally, this, but a little less on the libertarianism and a little more on the socialism

All those who think libertarianism or conservatism is great should be sentenced to living in the US and making $10/hour. Try making it without any help while you watch rich people enjoying themselves on your work product.

I would be happy making that much an hour...but I suppose I shouldn't complain when I'm still making well above Kansas' minimum wage of $2,65/hour.

The $2.65/hr cited by most sites only applies to special job classes, like tip-earners. It's $5.85 for most everyone now, and it's slated to raise to $6-something later this month, according to all those US labor information posters. Still... having once earned our old minimum wage of $5.15/hr... ridiculous. I'm making 8.75/hr now, which only equates to about $500/month for me (not allowed to work more than 18 hours per week) My boyfriend works full time on about $10/hr and for $2100 a month, we've crunched the numbers time and again and still can't afford to move out, thanks to student loan debt. We come up almost even, but we'd have no savings for when a vehicle inevitably breaks down or something like that. I don't think that's the result of any -ism, though. No party is going to be able to raise wages to a point where every American is financially comfortable. For my situation, it's just part of being working class and at a point in life with little upward mobility. Yet another pitfall of adultlescence: adult expenses on a student's income. *sigh*

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In King County, Washington State (where Seattle is), you now have to earn at least $18 at a fulltime job to afford to rent a one-bedroom apartment (flat).

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qecantilles

Here in West Virginia you can live comfortably on $10 an hour if you don't have children.

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I'm an Ultra Conservative.

And I do not feel like arguing with you people, so that's as far as I'm gonna go.

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Make a new poll.

Quite how Ultra-Conservative and Libertarian are in anyway related is beyond me.

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Make a new poll.

That would require the inclination to do so.

I'm far more comfortable bitching about others to be honest.

Quite how Ultra-Conservative and Libertarian are in anyway related is beyond me.

I would imagine the thought process behind it suggests that anyone who is libertarian must oppose any kind of government intervention whatsoever and thus supports a world where people are free to eat babies and eat their own grandmothers. Or something.

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Depends on your definintion of libertarian. Libertarian/Anarchists would oppose any kind of government, let alone intervention thereby (thereby?). Libertarian/Minimal-Statists oppose Govt meddling in everything bar law and defence IIRC.

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Depends on your definintion of libertarian. Libertarian/Anarchists would oppose any kind of government, let alone intervention thereby (thereby?). Libertarian/Minimal-Statists oppose Govt meddling in everything bar law and defence IIRC.

True, and I'm in the latter of the two there.

Neither of them could really be considered ultra-conservative.

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I associate Conservativism more with state meddling in all but economic affairs.

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I'm indifferent. I'm not interested in politics.

:o :o :o Not interested in politics?! But, everything is political. As someone once said, [i'm not sure who], "The personal is political".

Yup, I always find the indifferent view rather baffling too.

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I'm a post-Marxist democratic socialist with a whiff of anarcho-syndicalism....

Basically I believe that capitalism is inherently exploitative and leads to an unfair society, and that it should be the role of the state to intervene to create equality. This could well be through wholesale state control of the economy (nationalisation and public ownership).

The problem is that the traditional left-right spectrum has always been too simplistic (not least because the extreme right and left actually have a number of things in common). Also, terminology differs in different countries - I think in the uk we tend to think of left vs right, with liberals in the middle. Liberal to me is not the opposite of conservative. Also in different societies the litmus test issues are different - in the US it seems abortion is used in this way, whereas here it's more likely to, say, attitude to the NHS.

An interesting model is to split economic and social issues. So you could be economically liberal (believing in the free market) but socially authoritarian. Or I'm economically authoritarian (I believe in state ownership) but socially very liberal.

If you go to http://www.politicalcompass.org/ there's a questionnaire which gives you a score on two different axes, and the results can be quite interesting.

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I have my own opinion about every subject, I support whatever sounds like the best (not the right) solution to each particular issue regardless of which political label those solutions fit into. I'm happy with status quo when looking at the big picture but would like radical changes on several key issues. Pulling towards conservative on some areas and liberal on some I end up in the center of the spectrum overall.

I don't know if I should vote "Moderate or Pragmatist" though since centrist in Sweden is actually the same thing as "Ultra Liberal or Socialistic" in USA.

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I'm indifferent. I actually don't see the point in politics. In fact I can hardly think of anything more boring and useless to do in life than get involved with politics. I mean, come on - there are so many other things better than placing borders and dividing our planet... :rolleyes: I think it may be related to my misanthropy ... :ph34r:

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I'm indifferent. I actually don't see the point in politics. In fact I can hardly think of anything more boring and useless to do in life than get involved with politics. I mean, come on - there are so many other things better than placing borders and dividing our planet... :rolleyes: I think it may be related to my misanthropy ... :ph34r:

That's quite a political statement for someone who's indifferent.

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I'm an Ultra Conservative.

And I do not feel like arguing with you people, so that's as far as I'm gonna go.

The polls tell it all. I stated that AVEN is very Left in atmosphere and many scream loudly NO ITZ NOT!!!!!!!!!!

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