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Are Reparations for Slavery in the US a Valid Responsibility?


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Should There be Reparations for Slavery?  

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  1. 1. Which of the following closest indicates your belief in reparations for slavery?

    • There should be, without a doubt, some form of *monetary* reparations for slavery
      7
    • There should not be any form of reparations for slavery further than what society has already offered
      25
    • The cases for and against reparations are so close that both are very valid options
      2
    • There should be some form of reparations for slavery which is not primary monetary
      8
    • If you have something completely different from any of the above in mind, please comment!
      4
  2. 2. (If you did not answer 2 or 5 for the above question) Which group of people below closest resembles the group which reparations should be paid to?

    • Black people in general, with only those who can be prove to *not* have direct ancestral roots to a former slaves not receiving reparations
      7
    • All people who would qualify as "black" in the US, based on some to-be-determined standard
      6
    • Only blacks with incomes/net wealth below a certain amount
      1
    • Only blacks residing in some geographical location
      0
    • If you have something completely different from any of the above in mind, please comment!
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On 2/4/2018 at 5:48 AM, ChildOfTheLight said:

Indubitably, reparations for slavery are necessary and proper.  Now since various black supremacist organizations reliably inform us that the Egyptians were all black, and it's well known that Jews were enslaved in Egypt, I presume that black Americans will promptly begin paying reparations to American Jews.

LOL at "black supremacist" organizations. Well for one thing, Ancient Egyptians were a black North African people, and slavery was never a large institution in Egypt(there were slaves in Egypt, but no evidence of a widespread use of them that helped their society function). It was once believed that it was slaves who built the pyramids, only to find out that they were done by the working class of Egypt. There is a lot of dispute on whether Jews were slaves in Egypt or if the Exodus even happened. Some scholars believe that the Jews of Egypt were the Hyksos, who invaded and conquered Lower Egypt for over a 100 years. The Upper Egyptians eventually regained the upper hand and kicked them out of Egypt. This might have been the "Exodus".

 

But lets play your game. Its a fact that the native black North Africans ( not the Ancient Egyptians, there was several different groups) invaded many European coastlines for European slaves. These North Africans would invade European villages near these coastlines and take the people in for slavery. The main search was for the women, and European women in particular were brought back to North Africa, sold to become concubines to the highest bidder. There is evidence that European slave labor build several buildings in North Africa. European slavery helped to modify North Africa to become a largely mixed population that it is today. Now with the knowledge that this happened, you can ask why shouldn't North Africans pay Europeans for this? Well for the simple fact that this occurred thousands of years ago, during the times before Christ and some hundred years after. If your going to go back that far in time, than every single tragic historical event is game for reparations. That is simply unrealistic. Also, if North Africans would have to owe from something so far back, than European nations would owe big time for the colonization that destabilize and disrupt half the world several hundred years ago. Your not going to find the affects of North African slavery in Europe. It happened so far back that most Europeans don't even know that it happened. The effects of colonization, for an example, what Belgium did to Congo, is still so apparent today because it happened in recent history( late 1800s to early 1900s).

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On 23. 10. 2017 at 9:41 PM, TheSmokingSkellie said:

I disagree with reparations being paid for something that happened ages ago. Sure if they were asking for it when it was abolished or shortly after (like a decade or so) but now? Nah, focus on the other problems that are around us and not on what happened ages ago. 

This. No one alive today has been a slave. We might address problems in the Black community that exist in real time for what they're worth, but reparations for something that happened to previous generations that are no longer alive - and whose victimizers are no longer alive? Absolutely not.

 

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