quietcrayon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 But really. Do people actually enjoy sex scenes? I'm not sex repulsed, so I never mind it when people are having sex on screen, but I don't usually see the point. There can be reasons as to why there'd need to be a sex scene, it might be important to show that some characters were having sex that night, it might have actual plot relevance. But the point in long, revealing scenes between characters? It never really occurred to me until recently that people would enjoy actually those, because they are often unnecessary to the story. This isn't really even me asking a question anymore, I'm just coming to this odd realization that most sex scenes are for peoples enjoyment and less for story. Link to post Share on other sites
Jackninja5 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Some people do as they react to it like it is pornography. I don't exactly see the point either unless it has something to do with the actual plot. Link to post Share on other sites
Polygon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 It goes one of two ways. A lot of people find it uncomfortable, especially if they're watching with family/friends. It's not uncommon for a reaction to a sex scene to be averting eyes and just waiting, hoping, for it to end so the story can start up again. It's like... we get it, they're in love... do we seriously have to watch a minute or more of this? On the other hand, I suppose a lot of other people take it as almost like pornography. Not something I understand very well, to be honest, but I guess it's entertaining to some people. (ALSO, NORA, QUEEN OF THE CASTLE IS YOUR PROFILE PIC OMG ) Link to post Share on other sites
ConfusedButHere Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I find them fun to look at lol. I mean, I can tolerate sex scenes used for plot and aren't that...detailed. Like just showing a few ruffling sheets and a few sounds that don't last long just to indicate that, yeah, they had sex. But if it goes beyond that it's just like...meh I could do without it. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Zulas Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm ace but I enjoy them - dunno how I'd explain it other than saying my body reacts (in the way a biomale's body tends to in that situation) and though I don't do anything about it it's a nice feeling? I'm VERY picky about it though, if it's morally reprehensible I don't like it (with some exceptions, but I'm a stickler for empathy even when it's R34 of elves and knights, don't ask) and I usually like animated better. It's really all about aesthetic for me, don't really CARE if actual acts happen or not. I get it being a bit mystifying though. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I actually asked about a dozen of my friends this recently (we were watching a programme with lots of sex scenes which added nothing to the plot) and their responses were split about 50/50. Half of them thought they were really awkward and uncomfortable, the other half didn't really care but thought they were a bit annoying when there were so many of they weren't necessary to the story (this is my response too). No one actually admitted to liking them. Link to post Share on other sites
StupidDream Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 They make me feel really uncomfortable and never really have much relevance on the plot... Link to post Share on other sites
Karacoreable Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm with @Polygon here, even if you're not ace I bet it's super awkward sometimes! It's especially terrible when you're watching something alone with your best friend, who happens to have asked you out. And you refused, of course. Mind you, at that point being on your own with that person in any situation can be awkward. Link to post Share on other sites
Jean of Arc Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I thought the thread went about if the actors enjoyed performing sex scenes. I think the same, I usually feel uncomfortable because they tend to be unnecesary to the plot most of the times (not to mention the sexism in those scenes...) Link to post Share on other sites
AsexualAnomaly Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I actually do enjoy them. Even more so in movies, to me it's not similar to pornography but more to normality. These sex scenes tend to either be realistic, romantically focused, glorified, etc etc depending on the theme. In movies a sex scene can be directed different ways with different outcomes which plays not only into the story different ways but to the audience as well. Even around other people I never understood why someone would be embarrassed about it since it's a natural thing that happens in most people's daily lives. Growing up between Japan and the U.S. however my view on sex and nudity is a bit odd to some people. A bit more free spirited. It's all just normal to me and only becomes abnormal when people treat it as such. If that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deus Ex Infinity Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Jackninja5 said: Some people do as they react to it like it is pornography. I don't exactly see the point either unless it has something to do with the actual plot. I was actually going to the say the same thing. I guess it's more for visual stimulation and entertaiment than pushing the story plot. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 They can show character subtext, advance the story, look good and yep, titillate. They're generally about as necessary or otherwise as car chases or fights. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 i'm very repulsed by it so i react to them the same way i do when it's pornography.I always either zap if it's on TV or just skip if it's a movie i'm watching. It's ok others find it entertaining but i really don't want to see it happening live, I never get the plot either. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Telecaster68 said: They can show character subtext, advance the story, look good and yep, titillate. They're generally about as necessary or otherwise as car chases or fights. Eh. A car chase or fight generally is part of the story line, with a reason behind it, characters you are supposed to be emotionally invested in involved in them and advances the story in some way. A lot of sex scenes in movies end up being random characters you maybe haven't even seen before this, nothing to add to the story and no reason beyond just to have boobs shown bouncing on the screen. Not all, of course, some do add to the story plot. But, especially in movies where the actress has a no nudity clause in her contract, it's not likely to have much to add to the plot, since they can't show the obligatory rated R boob shot from the main actress. And most people I know, sexual or not, find the pointless sex scenes annoying. Especially when they are unrealistic and uneven. Personally, if they have some meaning to the plot, fine whatever, doesn't bug me. If it's just there to have a sex scene with no reason, then it makes me want to slap the director. Link to post Share on other sites
J. van Deijck Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I don't know, but for me, most of sex scenes in TV are facepalm worthy. but then, it's just me. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Quote A car chase or fight generally is part of the story line, with a reason behind it, characters you are supposed to be emotionally invested in involved in them and advances the story in some way. Two people consummating their relationship advances a story. How they have sex reveals things about how they feel (rough / tender / kinkeh / whatever). People have sex for a reason (revenge / love / manipulation / lust / whatever), which can advance the story. Or maybe someone we thought was a puritan actually likes sniffing coke off hookers breasts. You could show the beginning and end of a fight or a car chase and advance the story in the same way as cutting from a kiss to the couple having a cigarette afterwards, a la Hays Code, but its the nature of drama to show important events happening, because: mirror neurons. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The point of the sex in The Room was that it was rape. It was meant to be repulsive. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Telecaster68 said: Two people consummating their relationship advances a story. How they have sex reveals things about how they feel (rough / tender / kinkeh / whatever). People have sex for a reason (revenge / love / manipulation / lust / whatever), which can advance the story. Or maybe someone we thought was a puritan actually likes sniffing coke off hookers breasts. Walking into a bar and two people you've never seen (and never will see again in the movie) having sex in it doesn't advance anything. Crashing through doors during a fight and seeing a woman riding a man, neither character you'll ever see again, doesn't advance anything. Etc, etc, etc. Which, a lot of sex scenes in movies end up being these sorts of silly "well, we didn't have any nudity, so lets add a sex scene somewhere for it" scenes, rather than anything plot worthy. The 300 scene had a point, Watchmen... had a point but the point didn't need to be so drawn out and long. Which, is why, if you read the rest of the post you see I said if it has to do with the plot don't care, but the ones that are just there as the obligatory "we need boobs" scene for rated R movies are just annoying (and sexuals I know agree with me for the most part ) Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yeah, it can be gratuitous, just as some violence and action scenes can be gratuitous. But some people enjoy car chases and violence regardless of gratuity, and visual story telling (cinema, TV, comics) is in the end about showing thing to get an emotional reaction, that doesn't mean it's inherently wrong. Just not your preferred style of story telling. There's a great car chase in Ronin, through the back streets of Marseilles. It's just about justified in plot terms, but you could have had the two characters in the front car seeing their pursuer, pulling off an exit abruptly, and losing him. Or just cut to later with the car bashed up, thrm both looking sweaty and exhausted as they get out and say 'phew well he took some getting rid of'. But the thrills and tension and action of the chase itself make it inherently good cinema regardless of the plot. Michael Bay's films are generally rubbish but the action scenes are gripping. Same with a lot of Mission Impossible sequences. The scene itself can be great without being absolutely vital - the opening shot of Betty Blue for instance, when it comes to sex. I'm really not interested in sport but questioning whether anyone else enjoys sports scenes in films, with they very clearly do, would seem obtuse to me... Link to post Share on other sites
roland.o Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 46 minutes ago, Serran said: but the point didn't need to be so drawn out and long. Exactly my thoughts about the car chase in the second Matrix movie ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
m4rble Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Sometimes sex scenes can be funny. I thought the sex scenes in Bridget Jones's Baby were funny. I generally like sex scenes if I don't have a problem with the character's relationship. I liked the sex scenes between Buffy and Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. If they're characters I don't think have any business being together or characters I don't know anything about I don't like it. I didn't like the sex scenes in Angel between Wesley and the evil lawyer because those characters supposedly hated each other so I don't know how they could stand touching each other. Wesley might have grown more affectionate for her toward the end of the series, but she had no redemptive character arc and never stopped working for Wolf, Ram, and Heart. Link to post Share on other sites
Homer Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 One day I went to the cinema with a friend. She is a huge fan of some actor or other and there was a sex scene involving him. Nothing huge, just a quickie on a set of stairs. Plot value: Below zero. But you could tell that she liked watching it. Maybe she was imagining to be the one who was with him, no idea. Point is, yes, some people actually enjoy sex scenes. Link to post Share on other sites
grbt98 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Occasionally they might have some relevance on plot or character development. I will concede that potential for such is there. Still generally makes me really uncomfortable and I usually turn my head or eyes away during such scenes until/unless it becomes apparent it's going to add something to the story. But, well, I do that with any uncomfortable / embarrassing / dumb / pointless scene. Link to post Share on other sites
roland.o Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 3 hours ago, m4rble said: I didn't like the sex scenes in Angel between Wesley and the evil lawyer because those characters supposedly hated each other so I don't know how they could stand touching each other. I felt that these scenes added to the twisted relationship between the two. She was doing it to exercise power over him, to get to his weak spots; while he was looking for physical relieve from not being able to get the lady he really wanted. She obviously had no romantic connotations to the physical act, while he was imagining being with somebody else, at least at the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Actually.... I thought you meant Room, with Brie Larsson, which is a completely different film Link to post Share on other sites
Pramana Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I find that sex scenes are better when off-screen and symbolic. Link to post Share on other sites
m4rble Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 hours ago, roland.o said: I felt that these scenes added to the twisted relationship between the two. She was doing it to exercise power over him, to get to his weak spots; while he was looking for physical relieve from not being able to get the lady he really wanted. She obviously had no romantic connotations to the physical act, while he was imagining being with somebody else, at least at the beginning. Truth be told, I didn't watch every episode in that part of the series. I watched Angel much more faithfully. I guess I just found Spike and Buffy's relationship interesting, I didn't really like Buffy and Angel as a couple because it seemed way to over the top and cliche romantically. Spike was kind of a relief from that. Link to post Share on other sites
m4rble Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Pramana said: I find that sex scenes are better when off-screen and symbolic. Yeah, it's nice when they skip to the part where they're talking in bed after the alleged sex. Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 You could have more or less the whole story off screen, come to that, and just shoot someone telling their friend about it in a coffee shop. Link to post Share on other sites
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