hunterblackwood Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Asexuality seems to be over looked in the Lgbt+ community. I know plenty of people who seem to think its fake, weird, or just stupid. How come it's such a foreign concept to people? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Éadweard Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I have a lesbian friend and she once told me she would much rather people know she's a lesbian than think she didn't care for sex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R_1 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I told a bisexual acquaintance that I am ace, and she responded "You're asexual?! I'm bisexual". Sounds like you got yourself in a bad part of the LGBTQ+ community, and there are welcoming members out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruru+Saphhy=Garnet Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I agree with Reptilian.You did get a bad part of the LGBTQIA+ community.There a very welcoming members out there. Luckily in my area, the LGBTQIA+ community is very welcoming. On why asexuality is a foreign concept to people... I guess it's because our society is so damn hypersexual, things about asexuality is rarely ever discussed,I suppose,wether on media,or in real life. The media makes sex seem like "THE MOST AWESOME THING EVER AND YOU'RE A LOSER/SICK/FREAK IF YOU DON'T ENJOY IT!" And I do honestly think the media has a part to play in so many people's mindset on sex that people,gay or straight, cannot even IMAGINE someone not being sexually attracted to anyone and/or having little to no interest in sex. I'm not blaming the media for everything, of course, but it does influence a lot of people's view on things. And honestly,regardless of sexual orientation, regardless of the media, some people are hostile to things they don't understand,and sometimes don't want to understand. Some people are just uneducated,and some are just plain ignorant and want to stay that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
55685j6 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I'd have to say I agree with what other people have said so far. I think most of the LGBTQIA+ community is pretty welcoming, but just like any other group there are going to be a few bad apples. Also, maybe in the future other parts of the community will become more educated about asexuality? I'm sure most of the people you've encountered who say negative things aren't necessarily saying it from a spiteful place, but from a point of view that's confused/doesn't understand it as much as they could. Sorry for any bad encounters you've had though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lines Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I don't really get why asexuals and even people who are bi sometimes get these weird looks from the LGBT+ community. Isn't the whole idea of the community to let people be who they are? There might be something to what Ruru+ said, that everything is so focused on sex and when someone who doesn't enjoy it comes along it's weird as hell. Meh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Driekje Vos Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Due to this topic I surfed to the website of our national LGBTQ community and couldn't find anything about asexuality. Quite chocking, I must say... :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Some1UshdKnow Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I spent many years participating in the local LGBT+ community, and don't find it as welcoming as one would expect. I've had to deal with some internalized homophobia and transphobia as a result of my upbringing, plus people seem to think my experiences are either not true or not valid. It's sad, because isn't the whole point of LGBT+ to let people be who they are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luftschlosseule Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The LGBTQ+ people around here are also very welcoming and while many don't know asexuality, if this topic comes up they are very polite and curious. If I look on the websides, neither asexuality, aromanticism or non-binary genders are mentioned, but you can see that some people are more educated, others are not, but they're all very nice people and willing to learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snao Cone Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 My local LGBT organizations recognize asexuality and aromanticism as part of the diverse landscape of sexuality and gender identity. If you don't see what you think is a valid need for your community - not just for you to feel special - then start taking part in the LGBT community as an ally. Your involvement and contributions to what is already the focus of these organizations will give you opportunities to share your experiences, in due time. If you have similar experiences, such as discrimination or feeling lost or rejected by the world around you, the organization may see how relevant it is for them to include asexuality as one of the groups included in their purpose. Just don't whine from the get-go that you don't think they're doing their job properly because they don't give special attention to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epiphanycakes Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 My local LGBT organizations recognize asexuality and aromanticism as part of the diverse landscape of sexuality and gender identity. If you don't see what you think is a valid need for your community - not just for you to feel special - then start taking part in the LGBT community as an ally. Your involvement and contributions to what is already the focus of these organizations will give you opportunities to share your experiences, in due time. If you have similar experiences, such as discrimination or feeling lost or rejected by the world around you, the organization may see how relevant it is for them to include asexuality as one of the groups included in their purpose. Just don't whine from the get-go that you don't think they're doing their job properly because they don't give special attention to you. it seems a lot of lgbt groups are hit and miss , iv not had ace stuff come up at mine so I might do that I did with trans issues ^.^ . I also feel because people in the lgbt have to suppress there sexual desires us having none seems like a hard thing to grasp. I have hope though the younger generation seem to be more open Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oskietje Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I've only experienced open hostility from such communities in relation to asexuality. I can't understand that, given that it's pretty "out there" for 99% of the population who can't imagine living without something like that. Like another poster stated, I had a couple people tell me that they felt like they would be much prefer people knowing that they were flamboyantly and feminine acting homosexuals before than being asexuals. That really showed me where I stood on the landscape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R_1 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 My local LGBT organizations recognize asexuality and aromanticism as part of the diverse landscape of sexuality and gender identity. If you don't see what you think is a valid need for your community - not just for you to feel special - then start taking part in the LGBT community as an ally. Your involvement and contributions to what is already the focus of these organizations will give you opportunities to share your experiences, in due time. If you have similar experiences, such as discrimination or feeling lost or rejected by the world around you, the organization may see how relevant it is for them to include asexuality as one of the groups included in their purpose. Just don't whine from the get-go that you don't think they're doing their job properly because they don't give special attention to you. it seems a lot of lgbt groups are hit and miss , iv not had ace stuff come up at mine so I might do that I did with trans issues ^.^ . I also feel because people in the lgbt have to suppress there sexual desires us having none seems like a hard thing to grasp. I have hope though the younger generation seem to be more open The younger generation is more open to asexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, and so on. I never been active with the lgbt community, and I don't find myself to part of them, but from what I see in tumblr, they are all a hit and miss as far as obvious inclusion goes, and the issue goes far more deeper than just acknowledging sexuality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Éadweard Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I no longer care if asexuals are included in the LGBT community. But I will say anyone who thinks asexuals are "basically straight" doesn't know a hell of a lot about straight people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRexPhilbo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Due to this topic I surfed to the website of our national LGBTQ community and couldn't find anything about asexuality. Quite chocking, I must say... :( Similar story here in the UK. The current equality legislation only recognises gay and bi people. And trans people, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R_1 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I no longer care if asexuals are included in the LGBT community. But I will say anyone who thinks asexuals are "basically straight" doesn't know a hell of a lot about straight people. I seen those in tumblr, and few other sites. You can make the case that heteroromantic asexuals are straight by definition of being attracted to the opposite sex/gender, but that argument doesn't really hold water on other aces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Tomato Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm asexual and I'm pretty sure we don't actually belong in the LGBT community because we might be straight. Asexuality is not about sex as an action but there are still straight asexuals, gay asexuals and bi-asexuals. Therefor I believe asexuality is either an other community or it "belongs everywhere". Both my straight and gay friends are ok with me so I don't have any bad experiences yet. People should realise that love is not just about having sex. It's about the whole package. That's what I'm trying to explain to people. That you might like someone because of the way he/she talks, or smiles or their face or their character. Not because you want to have sex with them. That's the only thing I wish they could understand :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRexPhilbo Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Asexuality is not about sex as an action but there are still straight asexuals, gay asexuals and bi-asexuals. Please explain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RK800 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Most LGBTQ+ people I've come across are chill with me being ace. Though word of caution: be careful with the "emptyclosets" forum. One of the admins there doesn't like asexuals and makes jabs at us every chance he gets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Artistofnoname Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The LGBT are different in the fact they are sexual. We are not. They could never understand us no matter how hard they tried we are too different. So we shouldn't even group ourselves with them. We can sustain well on our own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I no longer care if asexuals are included in the LGBT community. But I will say anyone who thinks asexuals are "basically straight" doesn't know a hell of a lot about straight people. No, I know a lot about straight people. Tons. Everyone around me is straight. Trust me, I know what a straight person is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R_1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I no longer care if asexuals are included in the LGBT community. But I will say anyone who thinks asexuals are "basically straight" doesn't know a hell of a lot about straight people. No, I know a lot about straight people. Tons. Everyone around me is straight. Trust me, I know what a straight person is. I think what Jughead is trying to say is people who brands asexuals are straight doesn't know the meaning of straight, so therefore, a straight person is always heterosexual. If he's saying some people think asexuality alone merits straightnesss, well, those people who he is complaining about are not insightful at all. That brings a question, to what point a lack of interest into sex with the opposite sex/gender is essentially non-straight, and does this mean young teenagers who are infatuated with the opposite sex/gender without interest into sex are essentially not straight? If yes to the second question, well time to tell those teens they are not straight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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