The Crisis in the Democratic Party

[The Terrible Travis]

He's banking on being able to convince the superdelegates to come over to his side. That's how Obama became the nominee in 2008,

Even if all the superdelegates came over to his side, he still wouldn't have enough delegates. He knows that. His supporters refuse to recognize that.

That is not how Obama became nominee. By this time in 2008, Obama had less of a delegate lead than Clinton has now, and still Clinton conceded to Obama and supported him, since she could see she wouldn't be able to be the nominee . That's what you do when you're a grownup.

There's no crisis in the Democratic Party. Sanders supporters feel there's a crisis because their hero didn't win.

It seems to me like you're the one refusing to to recognize stuff here. Seriously, what you just said right now? It's a blatant lie. Bernie currently has 1,879 delegates. If all of Clinton's superdelegates (591) moved over to him, he'd have 2,470 delegates. The number of delegates needed to reach nomination is 2,383. What the hell are you even talking about when you say he wouldn't have enough? Do you not know how to do basic math?

No, no, no, no, no, no. "That's what you do when you're a grownup"? You've gotta be kidding me. Sanders does still have a shot at the nomination (even if it's a very unlikely one) and so there's really no reason to drop out until the convention. Also, a major reason Sanders is continuing to stay in the race despite the fact that Clinton will most likely get the nomination is because he wants to have some influence on the Democratic Party's platform. And even if the convention comes and Clinton gets to be the Democratic nominee, there's still no reason for Sanders to endorse her. Why should he endorse someone that doesn't stand for his values? That doesn't make any sense.

Almost half of Sanders supporters won't be voting for Clinton. I don't know about you, but I think it's fair to call something like that a crisis.

[veearrell]

And amid all this talk of Clinton being inevitable, it's expected that the FBI will announce whether or not they're going to prosecute her before the convention next month. They gave one of her aides immunity in exchange for him giving them information so they are taking this seriously and not just doing it to shut people up. And honestly? Based purely on what we know about the facts of the case, it's already been established that she is guilty of violating the Espionage Act so if the FBI declines to prosecute they are quite literally refusing to do their job. If and when a prosecution goes forward, that would make Sanders the nominee by default. He knows this and has simply been too polite to say it. The game's not over yet no matter how much you want it to be.

[Sally]

it's already been established that she is guilty of violating the Espionage Act

Oh, what BS.

As far as votes:

Clinton (2799) Sanders (1870)

That includes the superdelegates; It is vanishingly impossible that enough of Clinton's supers will change their minds and vote for Bernie at the convention. If they thought he'd be a winner, they'd have declared for him by now.

From CNN 2 days ago:

"Bernie Sanders said he'll vote for Hillary Clinton in November but he still won't endorse his Democratic challenger for president, saying Clinton needs to adopt more progressive positions before he officially ends his presidential bid.

"In an interview on MSNBC, Sanders said he would cast his ballot for Clinton because "I'm going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump. What I am trying to do right now is to make sure that the Democratic Party becomes the party that represents working people, not Wall Street.”

"When asked why he’s not dropping out of the presidential race, Sanders told MSNBC: “Why would I want to do that when I want to fight to make sure that we have the best platform that we possibly can?”

Sanders said he wants to see Clinton move left on universal health care, free higher education and Wall Street reform.

Sanders also admitted that he doesn't have the votes to become the Democratic nominee.

[Perissodactyla]