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WhenSummersGone

Ya they're pretty bad, but the video is good lol.

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Damn it whyyy did I read the comments?? whyyyyyy???

From the looks o it, it seems like you or someone similar to you responded to people in the comment section. If so, I'm glad you were able to talk to some of these people. Glad to know that I'm trying to snowflake my way into the LGBT community and that I'm too sickly to get a date. <_<

On a more positive note, it's not a bad video.

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Sorry but so many comments where people try to describe asexuality make me cringe... No one ever properly describes the reasons why they feel a certain way. I just kind of assume this is why people don't take it seriously.

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Oh the comment section...... :rolleyes:

Mistaking trans people for asexual people is one of the more bizarre misconceptions I've come across. :wacko:

At lease some of the people were open minded.

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''if you were born a man you are a man, you might think you're asexual but you're wrong, no amount of thinking otherwise will stop you being a man''

.......I have no words.

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Lord Jade Cross
Thats also pretty much the argument people use when it comes trans.
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One Winged Angel

Youtube comments have never been the place to find evidence of intelligent life in the universe. A few of the ones I just have to respond to...

"asexual" is just low sex drive and it exists but its not a lifestyle like so many people want to be unique snowflake about."

- Since it is so overused and supports a conformist mentality, I will not take anybody seriously who employs the argument "special snowflake"

"If you are asexual it's probably because you have some type of mental disorder"

- This is a basic avoidance tactic when confronted with something you do not like nor understand. Just say "He's mad!" then move on without another thought.

"This is something that girls make up when they don't want to fuck their partner, and guys when they're insecure in bed. :D"

- Yeah, much easier to create an entire sexual identity rather just go for the old headache excuse, or you know, actually being honest. As for guys who are insecure in bed, in order to WANT to be in bed with someone (assuming 'in bed' means sex), you are unlikely to be Asexual in first place.

As for the main topic, Asexuals masturbating is certainly a topic which is brought up a lot. However, there are a great many reasons why somebody would masturbate, and not all of them have anything at all to do with sexual interest or attraction. Now, as for whether masturbation to a paraphilic fantasy is a sexual activity in itself and therefore represents a form of attraction - that is food for another discussion entirely!

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Oh the comment section...... :rolleyes:

Mistaking trans people for asexual people is one of the more bizarre misconceptions I've come across. :wacko:

It took me a while to figure out what they were saying until I realized that they think asexuality is non-binary gender.

I can sort of get that, assuming that the commenter never heard of asexuality, didn't watch the video at all or read any comments, and isn't capable of the linguistic comprehension skills required to think that "asexual" is more likely part of the set including "heterosexual," "homosexual," and "bisexual" than the set including "male" and "female."

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Oh the comment section...... :rolleyes:

Mistaking trans people for asexual people is one of the more bizarre misconceptions I've come across. :wacko:

It took me a while to figure out what they were saying until I realized that they think asexuality is non-binary gender.

I can sort of get that, assuming that the commenter never heard of asexuality, didn't watch the video at all or read any comments, and isn't capable of the linguistic comprehension skills required to think that "asexual" is more likely part of the set including "heterosexual," "homosexual," and "bisexual" than the set including "male" and "female."

The comment I was referring to was talking about how asexual people were sick in the head because they wanted to mutilate their genitalia. The thread of comments in the discussion was about trans (men feeling like they were women and such) people but they kept labeling them as asexual. I'm pretty sure the specific comment thread I was talking about wasn't talking about non-binary gender.

But I'm sure some people also have that misguided misconception as well, that asexuality is a non-binary gender.

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Oh the comment section...... :rolleyes:

Mistaking trans people for asexual people is one of the more bizarre misconceptions I've come across. :wacko:

It took me a while to figure out what they were saying until I realized that they think asexuality is non-binary gender.

I can sort of get that, assuming that the commenter never heard of asexuality, didn't watch the video at all or read any comments, and isn't capable of the linguistic comprehension skills required to think that "asexual" is more likely part of the set including "heterosexual," "homosexual," and "bisexual" than the set including "male" and "female."

The comment I was referring to was talking about how asexual people were sick in the head because they wanted to mutilate their genitalia. The thread of comments in the discussion was about trans (men feeling like they were women and such) people but they kept labeling them as asexual. I'm pretty sure the specific comment thread I was talking about wasn't talking about non-binary gender.

But I'm sure some people also have that misguided misconception as well, that asexuality is a non-binary gender.

Oh, okay. Sounds like I gave the commenters too much credit - they're just genital-obsessed transphobic asshats.

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I posted there.

"I'm an autochorrisexual/aegosexual, and there are few things I would like to point out. Oh, and I know the labels I use on myself sounds tumblrish, but I use it as it doesn't speak about sexual attraction which is a problematic term as no one can show what exactly is sexual attraction is, the term means that I am only interested into sexual activity that doesn't involve me having sexual contact with another person. Anyways... People who don't have the desire to have sex with other at a inherent level can still masturbate because the hypothamalus is responsible for one's urges for masturbation, and the hypothamalus is no way responsible for one's attractions to others. Attraction to other whether it'd be romantic or sexual involves part of the brains that are outside of the hypothamalus."

They won't know what the hypothamalus is, but oh well. For those who don't know, the hypothamalus involves basic instinct only including sleep, and hunger.

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Did anyone else feel the urge to punch someone/something after reading the comment section of the video??? :mad:

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PeterPanForever

In my opinion, and experience, the asexuals who masturbate, watch porn, artificially inseminate themselves with sexual desire, and maintain relationships with figments of their own imagination in some kind of an AI fantasy world do it to compensate for their own asexuality. The key word here is compensate. It's compensation for not being able to throw your girlfriend on the bed and make passionate love to her, or go out to the bar and have a one night stand with the most mysterious woman you have ever met. We don't live out our fantasies in the real world, because we can't, and so until our asexuality is resolved within ourselves and we make peace with it, we masturbate, and we compensate. The thing that bother's me is when someone is told that they are not actually asexual because they have sexual desires, yet in many ways we live in a sex-saturated society and the sexual desire could be instigated not by your own sexuality but as a cultural construct itself that you cannot entirely shake whether you want to or not, but even more importantly THE SEXUAL DESIRE ITSELF MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU USE TO COMPENSATE FOR YOUR OWN ASEXUALITY WHILE YOU ARE EITHER FIGHTING AGAINST IT, OR COMING TO TERMS WITH IT. It really bothers me when someone says that you are not asexual because you have sexual desires, and yet there is a very good chance that those sexual desires are merely compensating for your asexual metaphysical makeover. Perhaps sex repulsiveness is a form of compensation for one's asexuality as well.

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In my opinion, and experience, the asexuals who masturbate, watch porn, artificially inseminate themselves with sexual desire, and maintain relationships with figments of their own imagination in some kind of an AI fantasy world do it to compensate for their own asexuality. The key word here is compensate. It's compensation for not being able to throw your girlfriend on the bed and make passionate love to her, or go out to the bar and have a one night stand with the most mysterious woman you have ever met. We don't live out our fantasies in the real world, because we can't, and so until our asexuality is resolved within ourselves and we make peace with it, we masturbate, and we compensate. The thing that bother's me is when someone is told that they are not actually asexual because they have sexual desires, yet in many ways we live in a sex-saturated society and the sexual desire could be instigated not by your own sexuality but as a cultural construct itself that you cannot entirely shake whether you want to or not, but even more importantly THE SEXUAL DESIRE ITSELF MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU USE TO COMPENSATE FOR YOUR OWN ASEXUALITY WHILE YOU ARE EITHER FIGHTING AGAINST IT, OR COMING TO TERMS WITH IT. It really bothers me when someone says that you are not asexual because you have sexual desires, and yet there is a very good chance that those sexual desires are merely compensating for your asexual metaphysical makeover. Perhaps sex repulsiveness is a form of compensation for one's asexuality as well.

How would desiring sex in one's fantasies compensate for Asexuality? doesn't this imply that Asexuality causes a deficit in one's sexual needs? ( which may be caused by the sex saturated society we life in?)

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PeterPanForever

In my opinion, and experience, the asexuals who masturbate, watch porn, artificially inseminate themselves with sexual desire, and maintain relationships with figments of their own imagination in some kind of an AI fantasy world do it to compensate for their own asexuality. The key word here is compensate. It's compensation for not being able to throw your girlfriend on the bed and make passionate love to her, or go out to the bar and have a one night stand with the most mysterious woman you have ever met. We don't live out our fantasies in the real world, because we can't, and so until our asexuality is resolved within ourselves and we make peace with it, we masturbate, and we compensate. The thing that bother's me is when someone is told that they are not actually asexual because they have sexual desires, yet in many ways we live in a sex-saturated society and the sexual desire could be instigated not by your own sexuality but as a cultural construct itself that you cannot entirely shake whether you want to or not, but even more importantly THE SEXUAL DESIRE ITSELF MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU USE TO COMPENSATE FOR YOUR OWN ASEXUALITY WHILE YOU ARE EITHER FIGHTING AGAINST IT, OR COMING TO TERMS WITH IT. It really bothers me when someone says that you are not asexual because you have sexual desires, and yet there is a very good chance that those sexual desires are merely compensating for your asexual metaphysical makeover. Perhaps sex repulsiveness is a form of compensation for one's asexuality as well.

How would desiring sex in one's fantasies compensate for Asexuality? doesn't this imply that Asexuality causes a deficit in one's sexual needs? ( which may be caused by the sex saturated society we life in?)

You're on the right track, but it has to do with the individual's feeling of self-worth within a cultural context. The reason why we have such a difficult time agreeing on what constitutes asexuality is because asexuality is part of a metaphysical makeover that includes the biopsychosocial. A person who is asexual due to biological reasons is going to have a different experience than a person who is asexual due to psychological reasons who is going to have a different experience than those who are asexual due to the way in which they were socialized. This is only half of what is going on within the asexual/sexual spectrum, and the other half of the determinate is the relationship between an individual's metaphysical makeover and the culture in which they live. Rarely do I even see the context of culture even mentioned within the realm of asexuality, and it must be included. Masturbation could be a way in which the individual explores the eros within, which would mostly be a companionate desire expressed through sexuality with one's self, their own body, and either including their imagination, or not. Although the desire originates as a companionate desire, it may transform into a responsive sexual desire as the individual loses themselves in moments of their own arousal, sensuality, and "ecstasy".

I am asexual for biological reasons. Because within my own social group growing up sex was an enormous part of one's identity and the collective identity, yes, my asexuality made me feel like I was deficient and inferior. I lacked self-worth, but only within my own perception. The truth is that I am not deficient, and I have just as much worth as everyone else, but this is the conclusion that I arrived at based on the relationship that my metaphysical makeover had with my culture, and this is where it became psychological. Asexuality was for me a disease and something that I had to overcome and rise above. I artificially "inseminated", or artificially infused myself with sexual desire by spending hours and hours watching porn and masturbating to erotic fantasies, and within my own psychology, because my asexuality is biological, the sexual desire made me feel more "normal" which in turn gave me a greater sense of self-worth within a cultural context, but the irony is that it also made me feel extremely ashamed of myself at the same time, because it's not who I am. It compensated for my asexuality by creating a false sense of self-worth and a sense of belonging, within a cultural context. The thing is though, as I come to terms with my asexuality, that it is not a deficiency but who I am within my Self, as I make peace with my metaphysical makeover, that I don't have to be a sexual creature to be worthy, I lose my desire for sexual desire, I stop inseminating myself with sexual imagery and explicit material, I lose my reason to masturbate, and I get to experience at least a glimpse of peace, being only left with companionate desire itself. A person can be experiencing sexual desire and still be asexual if they are taking conscious steps towards trying to be a sexual creature, but it is very artificial, and the irony here is that for the asexual, it's not natural, and we know it. It puts us at odds with ourselves, within ourselves. I pass through life in states and stages, and I am either deep up in it to a pathological level, or else I am not doing it at all, and it's funny, because I can go for five or six months at a time without masturbating when it isn't a part of my habitual lifestyle, but then I will watch a movie or something, something will trigger the 'will' to express the eros within through sexual desire and masturbation, but the sexual desire itself was artificially generated, via culture, and isn't really who I am.

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Artificial insemination usually refers to the process of impregnation using sperm from a sperm donation. Also, some asexuals genuinely want or need masturbation.

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PeterPanForever

Yes, you're right, that is the literal meaning, but it's the very same idea as the point I was trying to get across. To artificially generate would have been more accurate, or perhaps artificially infuse would have been an even better term. I do agree that there are many various reasons why a person, including an asexual, would want to masturbate, but when it becomes pathological, or compulsive, then we have a problem, and it's up to the individual to rise above their own biases and begin honestly approaching what is truly going on. In this case knowledge is most definitely power, and in my case, therapy.

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PeterPanForever

What the video said about non-directed desire and non-directed sexual desire within some asexuals, I think they really nailed it.

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