andreas1033 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sexual attraction, is when you see something your excited by, you must have it. Your stimulated by looks or bodies, and you must have that. That urge, then opens up instincts in you to get it. Glad i never had those urges, but most peoples do. Sex really is disgusting when you think about it, but it whats keep people on this planet, and alot of the masses happy. When your asexual, your brain does not respond to looks or bodies, and in turn does not open up instincts or drives to then thrust you to get it. Thats why its hard for sexuals to understand, as they do this instinctively, ie have sex, and have the drive to get to that position. Its what asexuals do not have, but most people whom are sexuals have. Its why a female whom thinks she may arouse a male whom is asexual, may in turn come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. As she has experience in turning other males on, she does not quite understand how to stimulate an asexual male into responding to her advances. So often a female would come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. When in fact he is asexual. Fully functional apart from missing that sex drive. Like i said before, if your really asexual, alcohol should not change you in any way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Telecaster68 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sexual attraction, is when you see something your excited by, you must have it. No. It's wanting it. We're not animals, we have self control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snao Cone Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sexual attraction, is when you see something your excited by, you must have it. Your stimulated by looks or bodies, and you must have that. That urge, then opens up instincts in you to get it. Glad i never had those urges, but most peoples do. Sex really is disgusting when you think about it, but it whats keep people on this planet, and alot of the masses happy. When your asexual, your brain does not respond to looks or bodies, and in turn does not open up instincts or drives to then thrust you to get it. Thats why its hard for sexuals to understand, as they do this instinctively, ie have sex, and have the drive to get to that position. Its what asexuals do not have, but most people whom are sexuals have. Its why a female whom thinks she may arouse a male whom is asexual, may in turn come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. As she has experience in turning other males on, she does not quite understand how to stimulate an asexual male into responding to her advances. So often a female would come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. When in fact he is asexual. Fully functional apart from missing that sex drive. Like i said before, if your really asexual, alcohol should not change you in any way. What a reductionist load of bull. Humans can think through their immediate physiological pulls and reactions to people no matter what kind of reaction they're having. If someone's doing something that irritates me, I don't always get an urge to punch them, and if they are irritating me that much I will still ignore the urge to punch them because I'm a civilized person responsible for my own actions. The parallel for sexual people and their sexual attraction and desires is manifold more complicated than this example, so saying that they're nothing but urges to fuck and will never understand somebody not wanting to fuck is denying they have intelligence and agency and empathy and can grasp multiple ideas at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 *raises finger to object that they probably didn't mean it that literally* *notices it's andreas1033* Oh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchrodingersCat Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sexual attraction, is when you see something your excited by, you must have it. No. It's wanting it. We're not animals, we have self control. Exactly. That "must have" feeling is more like desire or hunger, but that's also controllable. Attraction is just "Ooo! Me want!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchrodingersCat Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sexual attraction, is when you see something your excited by, you must have it. Your stimulated by looks or bodies, and you must have that. That urge, then opens up instincts in you to get it. Glad i never had those urges, but most peoples do. Sex really is disgusting when you think about it, but it whats keep people on this planet, and alot of the masses happy. When your asexual, your brain does not respond to looks or bodies, and in turn does not open up instincts or drives to then thrust you to get it. Thats why its hard for sexuals to understand, as they do this instinctively, ie have sex, and have the drive to get to that position. Its what asexuals do not have, but most people whom are sexuals have. Its why a female whom thinks she may arouse a male whom is asexual, may in turn come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. As she has experience in turning other males on, she does not quite understand how to stimulate an asexual male into responding to her advances. So often a female would come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. When in fact he is asexual. Fully functional apart from missing that sex drive. Like i said before, if your really asexual, alcohol should not change you in any way. Sex drive =/= sexual attraction Desire =/= sexual attraction Arousal =/= sexual attraction Wanting to have sex with someone specific = sexual attraction period. An asexual male can still become aroused by a sexual female who's going out of her way to arouse him. Arousal is a physiological response and need not be related to sexual attraction or desire. Ask any man who's been raped. Eating is also disgusting when you think about it. You put dead, decaying organic matter in your mouth, masticate it, swallow it into your stomach where it turns into goo, then the goo breaks down further into amino acids and simple sugars, goes through your intestines where the nutrients are extracted, leaving behind stinky brown poop. Compared to that, sex is pretty tame. It's just rubbing some flesh together, like giving a high five with your genitals. There's nothing special about genitals, they're just hyped up by our culture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchrodingersCat Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Now that I think about it, maybe desire is more like appetite. Sometimes you're hungry, but you don't feel like eating... like arousal without desire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andreas1033 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. Like i said before, i bet the females that liked me, and did what they did, always mostly got responses they wanted from other males, but no response from me. From my experience, females all have various ways of approaching males they like, and i bet with experience they learned how to get the response they wanted out of most males. My brain would not let what ever instincts open up, as without a sex drive, these instincts do not open up. From my experience of females they expect males to respond to certain things, and if your truly asexual, females will not get the response out of you they desire, and you just will not know how to respond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchrodingersCat Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. So you're asexual and you also don't get aroused. That doesn't mean they're the same thing. It means you have two different things going on and while they're both related to sex, that doesn't make one an aspect of the other. It's coincidence, not causation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rising Sun Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. Absolutely wrong. Even nonlibidoists have automatic physiological reactions to touching. Many experiments have shown it's the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. Absolutely wrong. Even nonlibidoists have automatic physiological reactions to touching. Many experiments have shown it's the case. Well, I'm guessing he meant by visual stimuli and the like. Which is true for some asexuals, they really can't be stimulated by that stuff at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 So you're asexual and you also don't aroused. That doesn't mean they're the same thing. Why do we have to keep pointing that out? I wish we had a basic logic test instead of a captcha to register for AVEN. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SchrodingersCat Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Well, I'm guessing he meant by visual stimuli and the like. Which is true for some asexuals, they really can't be stimulated by that stuff at all. I think you're being too generous. A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. "no matter what she does" pretty explicitly means doing more than standing there looking pretty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Well, I'm guessing he meant by visual stimuli and the like. Which is true for some asexuals, they really can't be stimulated by that stuff at all. I think you're being too generous. A true asexual male cannot be stimulated by some female, no matter what she does. "no matter what she does" pretty explicitly means doing more than standing there looking pretty. You do have to consider context.. Its why a female whom thinks she may arouse a male whom is asexual, may in turn come to the conclusion that male is retarded or something. As she has experience in turning other males on, she does not quite understand how to stimulate an asexual male into responding to her advances. What he's talking about is women using their body to get the attention of a male. Most people are sane enough to realize that it's not okay to put your hand in a guy's trousers just because they show zero response to your methods of seduction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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