LeftyGreenMario Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Hey, I have a very weird question for you to perhaps answer. Is it possible to live simultaneously a couple and a pair of identical twins? Some people might be weirded out and just call it off as incest (we're both strictly asexual aromantics though), but hear me out: My sister and I are a pair of identical twin sisters. Twin relationships are much different from nontwin sibling relationships. As a pair of twins, we're so close to each other that we can't live without one another. We have similar interests, similar personalities, similar beliefs, even similar sexual orientations (asexual aromantic). A lot of people, even our parents, expect us two to eventually grow out of each other and live separate lives, but we ourselves can't see that happening. Call us "too dependent on each other", but chances are, you don't have a twin. And if you do, every twin relationship has varying degrees of closeness. I feel ours is especially close, though. It's actually somewhat of a blessing that we're both aromantics because I've heard that dating with twins is especially difficult. From my experience, having a twin is like a soulmate. I've heard the best thing a twin pair can do is date another twin pair. But, we're aromantic asexuals, so we're not interested in dating. We want to live with each other as much as we can Which brings up my main question: marriage has legal benefits, correct? What if my identical twin sister and I want these legal benefits, normally reserved for couples? Is there any other method to have similar benefits if we live together as a pair? Again, this is a very weird question since it does sound like incest-without-sex but I can't help thinking about it. We don't want the sex, we just want legal benefits that a couple has if they're married. In the future, it seems more likely that my twin sister and I will live together so maybe it's a good time to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
anon. Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Whoa, I think it's cool that you have a twin, and I don't really find that this is really incest-related. I know in Japan, one person adopts the other to get some benefits (gay couples), but that obviously wouldn't work here. :/ I've got no idea tbh. Whatever y'all decide though, best of luck! Link to post Share on other sites
nerdperson777 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I don't think there's a law saying that you can't marry your sibling, even if it's just for benefit and tax purposes, although it might seem weird on paper. Link to post Share on other sites
The Great WTF Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Unfortunately, most places require you to be married to get all the legal benefits of marriage and most of those places also consider incestuous marriages illegal whether or not sex is involved or, if the marriage is legal, incestuous sex is not and you'll have a hard time proving your relationship is not sexual if you do choose to get married. Of course, those things will vary from state to state, but I'd hazard a guess that you would have a hard time with it. Beyond that, you probably want to look into what specific benefits and pitfalls come from marriage, civil unions, and cohabitation in your area. Things like joint tax returns are only profitable for some couples. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Depends what legal benefits you want. Some can be had through just being related - marriage is one way of being related, blood is another. You probably won't be able to get the marriage-specific benefits at all, but there are ways to get SOME. Like, medical decisions (you can do legal paperwork to say your twin is in control of that stuff), adoption you could adopt as a single and put the twin as guardian if anything happens, etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Marriage or civil unions are illegal in all states of the US for first-degree relatives, but as Serran said, you can do paperwork re medical decision, survivorship re financial stuff, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
LeftyGreenMario Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I'm not sure what legal benefits would be attractive. I would be thinking the way we get taxed or some sort of services. I'm not too informed on that subject. Are there any cases where siblings live together? Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Phoenix Ace Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 There's plenty of siblings that live together, certainly. But you'll never get some of the benefits married couples get. The tax incentive is really only beneficial if one partner makes significantly more money than the other. But then there's social security. When one spouse dies, the other gets their SS benefits until death. If you aren't married, those benefits evaporate. Link to post Share on other sites
LeftyGreenMario Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I don't even know how to deal with it if my twin sister dies. I'm considering just dying together since we're born together. It's a very uncomfortable subject though... Link to post Share on other sites
binary suns Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 It's probable that it's illegal where you live. Link to post Share on other sites
binary suns Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Sorry for double post, I'm using my phone :( but I realised that, some of the benefits of marriage already exist for family members, if that is your desire. (I don't get the desire for marriage outside of thelegal benefits xD) Link to post Share on other sites
poindexter Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Wow, you sound like me and my twin!! :D We're both aro/ace, and very very close also. She is my platonic life partner :3 It's nice to know we're not the only ones. Yay for twins! IMO, it really sucks that marriage benefits only apply to married/partnered couples, but then, I don't know if I agree with married people getting benefits in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
binary suns Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I don't know if I agree with married people getting benefits in the first place. lol I'd never get married then :P :o poindexter I didn't know you had a twin :o Link to post Share on other sites
poindexter Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I don't know if I agree with married people getting benefits in the first place. lol I'd never get married then :P :o poindexter I didn't know you had a twin :o ^_^ Being a twin reminds me of the daemons in Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials. You never feel alone in anything, but you constantly fear for each other's safety. Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua Blue Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I wonder if this is why a have had a squish on HGTV's twins, I have always wanted someone who understood me and had my back. Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Phoenix Ace Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I don't know if I agree with married people getting benefits in the first place. +1 here, why can't unmarried people reap the same benefits? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 To be totally honest, the benefits of marriage are slim compared to the drawbacks, at least in the U.S. I got married for medical insurance, but in every other area it's been nothing but a headache. We're actually considering, once I start working again and can get medical on my own, divorcing just so we can financially be separate again. 1) Apply for a loan, your spouse's credit counts against you. No leaving them off. So they have low/no credit you're gonna get a bad rate. 2) Go to get car insurance, they INSIST your spouse be licensed - even if they do not drive - the more expensive companies may bypass that depending on your area 3) Student aid? Forget it, if your spouse makes good money, even if you keep your finances separate and they aren't paying for your school 4) Taxes? Worse for most people if married. 5) Repaying debts and want reasonable repayment schedules? Good luck with that. They count your income + spouses income and decide you can afford half your paycheck to go to them because your spouse works too. My cousin was being bled dry until the government people told her to file as single vs married on taxes, so she could claim her income as a single person and her debts (student loans) would become reasonable again. Etc, etc, etc... The ONLY reasons I see to marry for benefits are: 1) Visas, if one is from another country 2) Insurance, if you cannot get medical on your own 3) SS benefits, if they're probably gonna die soon ... otherwise, stay single, it's less of a headache financially. :P Link to post Share on other sites
binary suns Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 OMG are you serious? I am so ignorant :( I hate headaches. Aint never getting married xP Link to post Share on other sites
The_Verse Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I am so jealous. I have a sibling and we have a close relationship but yours sounds amazing. I think living together would be awesome too. :D Link to post Share on other sites
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