Asex Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Trying to imagine death I imagine lack all my senses: lack of vision, lack of hearing, lack of sense for touch... Then there is blackness that is neither big or small, absolutely quiet, has no texture, neither hot or cold... I will call it blackness for short. This blackness after all is experienced by me so to completely imagine death I must make the final step and erase my self. However if I erase the self as I erased the senses then there would be nobody to experience my lack of vision, smell, hearing and so on so to me the idea of death is inconsistent, if that's the word. Link to post Share on other sites
Robin L Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I guess your question is whether the brain dies first or the rest of the body. Link to post Share on other sites
Asex Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 No, my question is how does one imagine death as death includes the absence of the one too Link to post Share on other sites
Skycaptain Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Personally, as an atheist I regard death as being like shutting a light switch. One moment you are conscious, breathing, your brain functions, next this all ceases.Look at my sig. The chemical reactions to continue life are discrete from those involved in the decay of a corpse. At no time are we chemically inert. Link to post Share on other sites
Arte Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Just imagine how you felt before you were born. That's probably what it feels like. Link to post Share on other sites
verily-forsooth-egads Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How is it inconsistent? Of course there's nobody to experience those things. You're dead. Hard to imagine, yes, but not inconsistent. Link to post Share on other sites
scarletlatitude Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'm sure you could find some philosophers (or philosophy majors) who would debate this point very passionately. I think that's part of what makes death scary. We don't know. And if it is the complete absence of the self, does that mean you completely cease to exist? (Except for in people's memories and art and yada yada...) It is a bit frightening to think that when you die, that's it. You're just gone. And eventually history will move on and forget you were here. Link to post Share on other sites
Asex Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Skycaptain I imagine shutting the light switch and everything being gone and me experiencing that emptiness however there is still me and death includes no more me so if I erase myself too than there is nobody to experience the emptiness so no emptiness too. Just imagine how you felt before you were born. That's probably what it feels like. To me there were no such time, I have no memory of before I was born. I was once under anesthesia and when I woke up it felt as if it was the moment right after I fell asleep(under the anesthesia) so time wasn't passing for me when under anesthesia. Link to post Share on other sites
CNGB Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 No one actually knows what happens after death. It might be complete non-existence, it might be Heaven/Hell, it might be that you just get regurgitated back out (read: reincarnation) . . . so yes, of course death is imaginable. What's hard to imagine, at least in some ways, is not existing: blank. Link to post Share on other sites
Calligraphette_Coe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Probably not, having had an NDE, it wasn't like I'd imagined. And who knows if it's the same for everyone? Or if it depends on the method/cause of your death. Link to post Share on other sites
Rising Sun Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 You can't experience non-existence, as by definition, non-existence doesn't exist. If you consider that non-existence exists, it's a big paradox to say the least... Link to post Share on other sites
Vestal Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Schopenhauer said, "After your death you will be what you were before your birth." Link to post Share on other sites
Calligraphette_Coe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Schopenhauer said, "After your death you will be what you were before your birth." Or the plaque in the chapel of the Capuchin Friars' crypts: "What you are now, we used to be. What we are now, you will be." Link to post Share on other sites
ThaHoward Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't think it will be black, as black is something. Death is nothing, and we can't imagine nothingness. Link to post Share on other sites
Calligraphette_Coe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 We can look into the abyss and draw our own conclusions. I think we can even imagine not being able to imagine. But if you *really* want to freak yourself out sometime, imagine, while you are driving in your car, that the world suddenly became a single flat plane in front of you, that reality is a movie screen and you're the only multi-dimensional entity interacting with the plane. Like Reality is a 2D stick figure drawn on the thinnest slice of paper, and that when you turn it sideways, the Stick Man sees you magically vanish. I can't even begin to explain this in words, but there were things like that in my NDE experience. But what was real, and what was attributable to the imaginings of a hurt brain being deprived of oxygen? Who can say? Link to post Share on other sites
ThaHoward Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Can you imagine how it was before anything existed? Keep in mind that blackness and emptyness is something, it is not nothing. If you can so (which is impossible) then you can imagine how death is. Link to post Share on other sites
DexM Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I've been close to death on two occasions. One was a slow build, the other came about a whole lot quicker, and both were full of all sorts of pain and confusion. The second time I was pretty much out of it, there were things happening and images appearing that actually led to me believing I had died. But I was still able to somehow figure out that I wasn't. Peaceful and painless deaths are something of a pleasant rarity, pain and/or suddenness is usually associated with death, and I believe that once the inevitable happens, it will be like the most cliched of personal-explanations, and that is a deep-sleep like occurrence. Eyes close, brain stops, heart basically gives up, and a simple nothingness. One which you wont be aware of. I don't believe in an afterlife, so as soon as the body does what it does and you stop being aware of of it all, then that's it; death. Like a long sleep. No alarm clock in the world is going to get you up from that one. Link to post Share on other sites
Plumcots Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Just imagine how you felt before you were born. That's probably what it feels like. OR, the non-conscious portion of your nightly sleep Link to post Share on other sites
Rising Sun Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Just imagine how you felt before you were born. That's probably what it feels like. OR, the non-conscious portion of your nightly sleep I don't think there is a single moment of my nights where I'm 100% unconscious, because I still perceive time passing while I'm sleeping. (But I'm a very light sleeper (because I'm hypervigilant and more particularly at night) and a lucid dreamer.) The only recent moment in my life that seemed like death was my last general anesthesia. I find anesthesia very different from sleeping, personally. When I awoke, I felt like I had been dead... And a lot of people who were anesthetized with curare often report a similar feeling (and some weird side effects for the few days after too). Link to post Share on other sites
AshenPhoenix Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I think it would depend on the person, honestly. I believe in an afterlife of sorts, I don't really know what it is, per say, but I think it exists. So maybe it would vary from person to person, and soul to soul, as well. For me, I drowned when I was very young (I wanna say 6-ish). And after I blacked out, I started having some very, very oddly coherent and intelligible thoughts for a six year old, along with a vague sense of nothingness, but that something was happening. Maybe it would be like that Link to post Share on other sites
Touchofinsight Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Peace, the only true peace IMO. No contest, no struggle, no joy, no sorrow. Just nothing. Its pretty morbid but it's death were talking about here the ultimate end we all have to face eventually. Trying to imagine the absence of something can be very difficult let alone the absence of EVERYTHING. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Well, I'm not going to demonize death or treat it like it's some kind of boogeyman... I have my own ideas about death. Link to post Share on other sites
Ace_Kat Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Even though we may never be able to find out what death is like, but I can imagine it maybe like going through a tunnel and going towards a light that leads to a place where the individual has made up and can alter to however they want. I guess you can say they go to their place that they always imagined and wanted to go to. Link to post Share on other sites
Yatogami Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Moments before death, you will see some crazy ass shit. From being carried away by God, or being abducted by aliens. Your brain fires some serious DMT/other chemicals up in that shit. Then darkness, quick, and sudden. You will not even be able to comprehend what happens after. Because you are no more. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaHoward Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It all depend on how you die though. Is it peaceful or is it filled with fear? Is it a slow death or a sudden one? Then it won't be black,,it will be nothing. Black is something, it is how our brain interpertates the lack of light rays. In death it will be no brain and no interpertations made by your brain. Link to post Share on other sites
theCupsSong Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 https://youtu.be/7AHpqstcDEk This video explains a bit on it Link to post Share on other sites
allrightalready Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 when i was clinically dead (no heartbeat, not breathing, cold and blue) i experienced nothing. it was much like going to sleep, not dreaming and then waking up 28 hours later (after the heart injection and shock to the heart i was in a coma for about 24 hours) Link to post Share on other sites
RK800 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not something I like to think much about since I've lost a lot of people and have almost died/killed myself before but here's my two cents and how my family views it: My Mom (Religion: Christian and Wiccan): She thinks that only the worst go down so to speak and others all have their own version of heaven and hell. My Grandma (raised Baptist): She believes there is nothing, you just cease to exist. My younger sister (Christian): You go to heaven and very few things will get you sent in the other direction. Me (Agnostic Christian): I have a theory of going to heaven but it's just a theory and I can't prove it. I believe in hell to an extent but not in the same sense many do. My approach is 'I'll know when I get there or not'. Link to post Share on other sites
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