plaidclash Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hi guys! So I'm a tad bit confused as to which one of these a "platonic relationship" is" 1. A romantic relationship (like dating) but without the sex. OR 2. A non-romantic relationship without sex. Could anyone clear this up for me? Thanks!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruqiah Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A non-romantic relationship (usually) without sex. Once it starts to feel romantic, then it is no longer platonic. It's kind of like.. a really really intense friendship. But without the romance feeling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoraDollie Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A platonic relationship is another way to say friendship. A queerplatonic relationship is a super strong friendship (no romantic strings attached). A squish is basically like a super best friend. A zuchinni is someone who you share a queerplatonic relationship with. Hope this helps :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A non-romantic relationship is a platonic relationship, whether or not sex is involved. A romantic relationship is a romantic relationship, whether or not sex is involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 platonic : of, relating to, or having a close relationship in which there is no romance or sex http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/platonic You can be non-romantic and sexual or romantic and non-sexual. Platonic, by definition, has neither. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 platonic : of, relating to, or having a close relationship in which there is no romance or sex http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/platonic I believe people in a platonic relationship can have sex. That would be a sexual platonic relationship, friends with benefits etc. I don't think sex has any baring on anything in these situations personally.. Sex or no sex doesn't change the relationship, it's what both people *feel* for each other that dictates what type of relationship it is (romantic, platonic, etc). Just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 platonic : of, relating to, or having a close relationship in which there is no romance or sex http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/platonic I believe people in a platonic relationship can have sex. That would be a sexual platonic relationship, friends with benefits etc. I don't think sex has any baring on anything in these situations personally.. Sex or no sex doesn't change the relationship, it's what both people *feel* for each other that dictates what sort of relationship it is. Just my opinion. Sex can exist in a non-romantic relationship, but I wouldn't call it "platonic", just a sexual friendship. What you feel makes it romantic / not romantic. But, I wouldn't call all non-romantic relationships platonic (as the word actually has a specific meaning taken from Plato). Though, your definition would make a ton of TV shows (usually sitcoms) much funnier. "Don't worry, our relationship is totally platonic!" ... as the jealous girlfriend thinks her boyfriend is having sex with his friend, but that line makes her trust him again. I don't think I can watch the cliche scenes anymore without thinking about how some people define platonic as sexual now actually... :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butterscotchwm Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Polygamous platonic relationships be like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eva Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A platonic relationship is another way to say friendship. A queerplatonic relationship is a super strong friendship (no romantic strings attached). A squish is basically like a super best friend. A zuchinni is someone who you share a queerplatonic relationship with. Hope this helps :) That explains something I saw on this site by a girl who said she likes to spend time with her zucchini, and I wasn't going to ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't know Serran.. This is feeling kind of like when the majority of the population says "romance can only be sexual, if it's not sexual, it's not romance" .. I can see that all the definitions of platonic relationship say "non-sexual" but the assumption that sex is *always* involved in romantic relationships is *everywhere* as well ..and if no sex is involved, get help! haha Two people can be closely bonded without being in romantic love, have sex for mutual pleasure and enjoyment, and call that Platonic love can't they? I never knew there were 'rules' surrounding platonic relationships ie "can't be sexual" just as there are (miatsaken) rules surrounding romantic relationships ie "a romantic relationship involves sexual intimacy if the sex isn't going so well get help" haha... Of course you get people who literally are just friends and have sex, but a platonic relationship is 'deeper' than "just friends" isn't it? It's still a very close bond, closer than a regular "hi how are you?" friendship, just without romance? Of course, I myself am aplatonic haha so I'm only theorizing here, I have no personal experience with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manny-senpai Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A platonic relationship is another way to say friendship. A queerplatonic relationship is a super strong friendship (no romantic strings attached). A squish is basically like a super best friend. A zuchinni is someone who you share a queerplatonic relationship with. Hope this helps :) I got everything except the queerplatonic stuff. I am just completely lost by it. Can someone Explain like I'm 5? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ariek Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 To me a queerplantonic partner(s)-I'm just going to stick with plural because that is my preference- are people who would be like a spouse, but without the romance/sex. They are the people I would tell everything to and raise cats or adopt children with. (I'm a freshman in college, so this is just my definition based on my wild imagination, not on experience). Has anyone had an experience with a queerplatonic relationship? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sex being love isn't part of the definitions. They actually make a point of stating no romance or sex, separating the two. "[T]he passion of a lover is not quenched by the mere touch or sight of a body," he wrote, "for it does not desire this or that body, but desires the splendor of the divine light shining through bodies, and is amazed and awed by it." This description was of love between men, specifically. Based on Plato's Symposium, where Socrates describes ascending from base desires. In the 1600s it evolved to include "platonic love" between a man and a woman. "the Court affords little News at present, but that there is a love call'd Platonick Love, which much sways there of late; it is a Love abstracted from all corporeal gross impressions and sensual Appetite, but consists in Contemplations and Ideas of Mind." The original definitions didn't even care to make distinctions between romantic /non - romantic( in the 1700s they used platonick friendship to describe two in love that had found out they were brother/sister, so chose a vow of celibacy to remain together). It evolved over time to include lack of romance to pair with the lack of sexual appetites from the original use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manny-senpai Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 To me a queerplantonic partner(s)-I'm just going to stick with plural because that is my preference- are people who would be like a spouse, but without the romance/sex. They are the people I would tell everything to and raise cats or adopt children with. (I'm a freshman in college, so this is just my definition based on my wild imagination, not on experience). Has anyone had an experience with a queerplatonic relationship? So if I were to go just solely based on your definition I would assume it is pretty much the equivalent of playing house with a best friend. That is how I understood it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fire & Rain Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A platonic relationship is when you want to squish each other to death :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Theoryal Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 To me a queerplantonic partner(s)-I'm just going to stick with plural because that is my preference- are people who would be like a spouse, but without the romance/sex. They are the people I would tell everything to and raise cats or adopt children with. (I'm a freshman in college, so this is just my definition based on my wild imagination, not on experience). Has anyone had an experience with a queerplatonic relationship? I hadn't heard that term at the time, but pretty much yes. My best friend and I were roomates in college. Shortly after graduating we got an apartment together. We had separate rooms, we never kissed or did anything sexual, but we were affectionate and sometimes cuddled, and there was a sense of commitment to each-other, like until either of us actually found a romantic partner (which seemed rather unlikely for either of us) then we'd stay together. She made more money than I did and shared quite a bit of that with gifts and paying a larger portion of the bills - we lived more like a unit than as two separate people. Although we didn't have typical romantic feelings for each-other we probably looked like we were in that kind of relationship to other people. We went out to dinner together, we cuddled while watching movies and walked arm-in-arm a lot of times and stood close to each-other a lot, we gave each-other back and head rubs, we shared most of our thoughts and feelings with each-other, when we talked about our own lives to others there was a lot of 'us' and 'we' instead of just 'I', we had that sort of exclusive connection where we just knew each-other so well and did almost everything together. One distinctive thing though was that at the holidays we each went and spent time with our own families. We did meet each-other's families and spend some time with them, but it wasn't a case where we felt like we'd actually become part of their family or felt the need to switch off because we couldn't be away from each-other for a week or so. Although it does feel like we are family to each-other, just not been adopted into the rest of each-others family. Even when apart, no day went by that we didn't talk to each-other, and it felt weird to go to bed without saying good night to each-other. And that's still the case. I won't go into the dramatic story, but we did kind of have a 'break up' and I met someone that I am now married to, but my friend and I worked through our emotional stuff with each-other and although we don't live together anymore, we still talk about most things together and never let a day pass without at least a little chat or text and a smiley-face with a 'good night', and we feel really 'off' if for some reason we're unable to have some connection, the day just feels incomplete without it. Before certain emotional personality clashing issues came up I would have been happy to live with her the rest of my life. I don't know what would have happened if I hadn't met my husband, we may have started living together again after sorting some things out, I'm not sure but it seems a likely possibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The traditional definition (from my experience as an old person) is a relationship without sex. As in, "They're not boyfriend and girlfriend; they have a platonic relationship". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 A QPR is when you have a sexual romantic relationship, then you strip all the sex and romance away and realize that nothing was lost.Just my impression. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manny-senpai Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Thank you Theoryal. Your anecdote really helped me get a firm grasp on the definition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nerdperson777 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So jealous of your QPR. I want a QPR but all my close friends have other people in their lives that take precedence over me when the situation allows. So whenever I squish on my friend(s), it's always a one-sided QPR for me. I do so much for them and not getting much back in return, but my inferiority complex makes me think I have to do all that just to hold up my end of the friendship. I always hold the other person on a pedestal. My definition of a QPR (because I'm a child inside) is a really close friendship. Do everything together. Share your secrets with only that one person. In my child mind, there are no relationships to distract from the friendship right in front of you. I seem to feel comfortable around those who act female or femme so I think it'd be cool if I had a QPR with an MtF so if I really had to simplify something, I could just call such person my gf (even though I'm romance-repulsed). :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarfeather Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So whenever I squish on my friend(s), it's always a one-sided QPR for me. Heh, that's how it often ended up for me with women. Don't know why, but males are just so much more reliable friends in my personal experience. ^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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