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The number one reason why I don't watch Game of Thrones is because there's sex in it. And I heard there's incest and stuff in it?

Yeah, I get that sex is a part of many people's lives. But even I know most stuff you see or read about is heavily exaggerated. People who act like teh sekz is the only worthwhile part of human life really need to get out more.

Oh yeah. Lots of incest. Lots. It starts out super creepy but then it starts to change as you watch until your like wait... am I agreeing with incest? <_<

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To be fair, I haven't really watched Game of Thrones, but I do have to ask about how come more movies clearly show women completely naked while there's rarely any naked men. There's kind of a double standard here.

Also, criminal minds was off-putting to me as it revolves around the notion that sexual interests explains their criminal behaviors. Law and Order SVU is pretty much the only Law and Order channel I can watch on my Roku, and it revolves around 4 letter words which I won't be saying.

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I think there's some meddling from the executive producers on the show to get more tits on screen. It would certainly explain a couple of scenes. Like why a courtier who owns a brothel apparently conducts all of his administration on the premises

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**Looks up nude scenes of game of throne**

Whoa...

That's a whole lot more nudity than any movies I seen in my Netflix.

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The amount of sex scenes in game of thrones is the main reason I haven't watched it yet, I've read all of the books which from hearing about the amount of sex scenes in the tv show has a lot less sex scenes in them.

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I feel like I'm the only guy at work that doesn't watch it. While everyone else goes on and on reliving the previous nights episodes, I sit back and wonder how they are so enamored by it. I actually think the program would have its merits if it weren't so sexual. Yeah, the story might even be entertaining. But I just can't be bothered with it.

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I will never watch Game of Thrones. I am too tame for a show like that. Few sights disgust me as much as live-action human nudity. I'd prefer to avoid a show brimming with intense violence, gore, profanity, extensive quantities of sex bordering on pornography, incest and other things that I'd rather not be reminded of the existence of. Combined with my own reservations about the author of the books and the serious negativity that they almost seem to be promoting, indeed, I'll be happy to simply never watch it.

I have no issue with those who do watch it though. To each his/her own.

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While there are some subplots of GoT that I really enjoyed (Arya and Jon!), the Daenerys subplot is what made me hate the books (and avoid watching the show).

Has anyone noticed how Daenerys gained her husband's respect when she learned to enjoy sex? Look, maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but let me explain. Drogo abused his wife sexually and objectified her from the moment they got married. I think she even mentioned disliking sex at some point in the first book (and no wonder, right?). So what did Dany do about it? She asked a prostitute for help. The prostitute taught her a couple of sex tricks and, somehow, managed to turn the teenage rape-victim all sex positive.

When Dany started using her new sex techniques on Drogo, he actually... fell in love with her? I mean, he became MUCH more sensitive and protective of Dany. As if he started to view her as an actual person, not as a sex toy.

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While there are some subplots of GoT that I really enjoyed (Arya and Jon!), the Daenerys subplot is what made me hate the books (and avoid watching the show).

Has anyone noticed how Daenerys gained her husband's respect when she learned to enjoy sex? Look, maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but let me explain. Drogo abused his wife sexually and objectified her from the moment they got married. I think she even mentioned disliking sex at some point in the first book (and no wonder, right?). So what did Dany do about it? She asked a prostitute for help. The prostitute taught her a couple of sex tricks and, somehow, managed to turn the teenage rape-victim all sex positive.

When Dany started using her new sex techniques on Drogo, he actually... fell in love with her? I mean, he became MUCH more sensitive and protective of Dany. As if he started to view her as an actual person, not as a sex toy.

I wouldn't be about to assume that the subplot is supposed to have a "This is a good way for a relationship to work" message to it, but yes, in essence that's how it pans out. Personally I hated Drogo as the meat-headed savage he is. To me it looked like Daenerys was just doing whatever she needed to in order to survive as a glorified trophy. She's never really sane throughout the whole series

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While there are some subplots of GoT that I really enjoyed (Arya and Jon!), the Daenerys subplot is what made me hate the books (and avoid watching the show).

Has anyone noticed how Daenerys gained her husband's respect when she learned to enjoy sex? Look, maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but let me explain. Drogo abused his wife sexually and objectified her from the moment they got married. I think she even mentioned disliking sex at some point in the first book (and no wonder, right?). So what did Dany do about it? She asked a prostitute for help. The prostitute taught her a couple of sex tricks and, somehow, managed to turn the teenage rape-victim all sex positive.

When Dany started using her new sex techniques on Drogo, he actually... fell in love with her? I mean, he became MUCH more sensitive and protective of Dany. As if he started to view her as an actual person, not as a sex toy.

Me too. I liked the Arya and Jon subplots too. In fact I think that Arya was a kick ass little girl and would've loved to watch the show to see he, and the Daenerys section just looked like stockholm syndrome to me

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While there are some subplots of GoT that I really enjoyed (Arya and Jon!), the Daenerys subplot is what made me hate the books (and avoid watching the show).

Has anyone noticed how Daenerys gained her husband's respect when she learned to enjoy sex? Look, maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but let me explain. Drogo abused his wife sexually and objectified her from the moment they got married. I think she even mentioned disliking sex at some point in the first book (and no wonder, right?). So what did Dany do about it? She asked a prostitute for help. The prostitute taught her a couple of sex tricks and, somehow, managed to turn the teenage rape-victim all sex positive.

When Dany started using her new sex techniques on Drogo, he actually... fell in love with her? I mean, he became MUCH more sensitive and protective of Dany. As if he started to view her as an actual person, not as a sex toy.

I wouldn't be about to assume that the subplot is supposed to have a "This is a good way for a relationship to work" message to it, but yes, in essence that's how it pans out. Personally I hated Drogo as the meat-headed savage he is. To me it looked like Daenerys was just doing whatever she needed to in order to survive as a glorified trophy. She's never really sane throughout the whole series

I definitely interpreted Daenerys and Drogo as Dany trying her best to "make the best" of her situation. I think she realized that she couldn't keep on going as she was - being scared, weak and abused. I don't see it as a goodl relationship whatsoever, and I think we are supposed to realize that Drogo is a savage, he bought Daenerys, it's no surprise whatsoever what he just viewed her as property, and his interest perked up when she got more "interesting" sexually. The main purpose of that first season storyline in my opinion, was simply to have Dany build herself up. Instead of being just a piece of property until the end of her days, she decided to take control of the situation and become a strong khaleesi. I think she started to have fond feelings for Drogo because he represented what she wanted to aspire to become - a fierce ruler, fire and blood, etc. Being around Drogo helped her become a fierce Targaryen for the first time.

As much as the story of the first book is quite harsh with Dany, it's my absolute favorite part of her storyline so far, because the gradual change that occurred within her. Drogo was a savage who didn't truly care for her as a person - but he was the catalyst that led Daenerys to finally taking control and asserting herself, which was the whole point imo.

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Game of Thrones, however, is less respectful of women than the books it was based on, throwing in female nudity and sex scenes in ways that don't add to the plot or develop character. (I'm thinking of Littlefinger's monologue in season 1, in the brothel.) The men are generally not sexualised in the same way. Women take their shirts off for no in-story reason, just so viewers can see their breasts, and men have sex with their clothes on, or with their backs to the camera. (Obviously there are exceptions, but I'mtalking about the general trend.) And (spoiler alert!) although this is not directly related, I also dislike the torture scenes that were added to the show.

It's disappointing, because otherwise, I like the show.

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I don't really consider myself sex-repulsed, I even enjoy reading and writing erotic fiction, and I still find it a bit too much to watch.

I was recently watching the Borgias which was similar at times, and I didn't realize how much it bothered me until the copy of one of the episodes I found was censored and I just felt a profound sense of relief at the nudity being covered up by black bars. It had just built up to that degree of being completely sick of the gratuitous sex and nudity and glad to not have to see any more of it.

With GOT in particular, I often felt like I was getting cheated out of plot or narrative that I could have been watching instead.

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While there are some subplots of GoT that I really enjoyed (Arya and Jon!), the Daenerys subplot is what made me hate the books (and avoid watching the show).

Has anyone noticed how Daenerys gained her husband's respect when she learned to enjoy sex? Look, maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but let me explain. Drogo abused his wife sexually and objectified her from the moment they got married. I think she even mentioned disliking sex at some point in the first book (and no wonder, right?). So what did Dany do about it? She asked a prostitute for help. The prostitute taught her a couple of sex tricks and, somehow, managed to turn the teenage rape-victim all sex positive.

When Dany started using her new sex techniques on Drogo, he actually... fell in love with her? I mean, he became MUCH more sensitive and protective of Dany. As if he started to view her as an actual person, not as a sex toy.

I wouldn't be about to assume that the subplot is supposed to have a "This is a good way for a relationship to work" message to it, but yes, in essence that's how it pans out. Personally I hated Drogo as the meat-headed savage he is. To me it looked like Daenerys was just doing whatever she needed to in order to survive as a glorified trophy. She's never really sane throughout the whole series

I definitely interpreted Daenerys and Drogo as Dany trying her best to "make the best" of her situation. I think she realized that she couldn't keep on going as she was - being scared, weak and abused. I don't see it as a goodl relationship whatsoever, and I think we are supposed to realize that Drogo is a savage, he bought Daenerys, it's no surprise whatsoever what he just viewed her as property, and his interest perked up when she got more "interesting" sexually. The main purpose of that first season storyline in my opinion, was simply to have Dany build herself up. Instead of being just a piece of property until the end of her days, she decided to take control of the situation and become a strong khaleesi. I think she started to have fond feelings for Drogo because he represented what she wanted to aspire to become - a fierce ruler, fire and blood, etc. Being around Drogo helped her become a fierce Targaryen for the first time.

As much as the story of the first book is quite harsh with Dany, it's my absolute favorite part of her storyline so far, because the gradual change that occurred within her. Drogo was a savage who didn't truly care for her as a person - but he was the catalyst that led Daenerys to finally taking control and asserting herself, which was the whole point imo.

Yes, I agree. Who didn't have a moment of girl power at the end of season 1 when she was there with her dragons? I think that the Drogo plot line was to get us to see Dany turn into a leader and a generally bad ass woman who will have her dragons set you on fire. I have had a rough time with her character since then. But in that moment I was like "yeah you go girl".

Game of Thrones, however, is less respectful of women than the books it was based on, throwing in female nudity and sex scenes in ways that don't add to the plot or develop character. (I'm thinking of Littlefinger's monologue in season 1, in the brothel.) The men are generally not sexualised in the same way. Women take their shirts off for no in-story reason, just so viewers can see their breasts, and men have sex with their clothes on, or with their backs to the camera. (Obviously there are exceptions, but I'mtalking about the general trend.) And (spoiler alert!) although this is not directly related, I also dislike the torture scenes that were added to the show.

It's disappointing, because otherwise, I like the show.

I hadn't considered that. Women are always sexualized more than men. It seemed like hetero men are barely sexualized at all. (There were some times when the male homosexual relationships were kind of thrown in our faces.) Hmm... I guess I didn't really think about it that much since that's how all other media is too.

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I think that the Drogo plot line was to get us to see Dany turn into a leader and a generally bad ass woman who will have her dragons set you on fire. I have had a rough time with her character since then.

I can see why, though personally I prefer it that way. It shouldn't be enough to just go "I have dragons and I am liberated!" to win in that world. For all that she is unfailingly stubborn, Danaerys also isn't all that clever.

Anyway, I may have already mentioned this somewhere, but the leech scene is the one I hated above all others. Not only did it serve the flimsiest of narrative purposes, it just plain didn't make sense in context

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I don't really consider myself sex-repulsed, I even enjoy reading and writing erotic fiction, and I still find it a bit too much to watch.

I was recently watching the Borgias which was similar at times, and I didn't realize how much it bothered me until the copy of one of the episodes I found was censored and I just felt a profound sense of relief at the nudity being covered up by black bars. It had just built up to that degree of being completely sick of the gratuitous sex and nudity and glad to not have to see any more of it.

With GOT in particular, I often felt like I was getting cheated out of plot or narrative that I could have been watching instead.

I saw the Borgias commercial on TV and thought that it might be interesting, but even the commercial hinted to sexual content. Eg. Naked woman with back to the audience. If the commercial has nudity, what hope do I have for the actual show? Point is, I didn't watch it.

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I don't really consider myself sex-repulsed, I even enjoy reading and writing erotic fiction, and I still find it a bit too much to watch.

I was recently watching the Borgias which was similar at times, and I didn't realize how much it bothered me until the copy of one of the episodes I found was censored and I just felt a profound sense of relief at the nudity being covered up by black bars. It had just built up to that degree of being completely sick of the gratuitous sex and nudity and glad to not have to see any more of it.

With GOT in particular, I often felt like I was getting cheated out of plot or narrative that I could have been watching instead.

I saw the Borgias commercial on TV and thought that it might be interesting, but even the commercial hinted to sexual content. Eg. Naked woman with back to the audience. If the commercial has nudity, what hope do I have for the actual show? Point is, I didn't watch it.

It's really quite a good show in a lot of ways, the sex/nudity is quite explicit and frequent however. I may be over exaggerating this in my memory, but I seriously felt as though one episode I saw was just cutting from sex scene to sex scene throughout the entire episode.

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Yes, I agree. The over saturation of sex in media annoys me quite a bit. I think it can also take away from story telling because the heavy focus on sexual relationships leaves less time to focus on other relationships and story lines. I've never seen Game of Thrones but when I watched True Detective, I thought there could have been less sex scenes and more time developing Marty's relationships with his family and daughters.

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I couldn't agree more. I can barely watch any modern TV shows at all. When I do, I am in constant fear that there will be some sort of sexual content in it. The fact that modern media makes everything so explicit annoys me, as it talks down to viewers, as if we need to be shown everything to follow the plot. Nothing seems to be implied anymore.

My favorite show, and one I HIGHLY recommend if you like comedy, is "The Phil Silvers Show." It was made in the 1950's and therefore has nothing objectionable in it. It is incredibly well-written and is laugh-out-loud funny. I rarely laugh out loud when watching anything, but this show gets me every time.

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Sexual content doesn't make me angry per se, it depends on the context. I actually loved Battlestar Galactica which did have sexual content in it (although much less explicit than HBO of course). But in most cases I think that it tends to be just thrown in there for softcore porn purposes and it often detracts from the quality of the show.

As for advertising, I don't understand how that works. I mean, obviously I'm not going to feel any sexual attraction to whatever ridiculously airbrushed and computer altered person they put alongside a particular product, but even if I did feel pleasure, why would this induce me to purchase the product? I mean ads without an appeal to sex, which do still exist, don't seem to work on me either - I see right through them. If an ad has actual information, such as that a sale is occurring or that a product I have been waiting for is now available, it might induce me, but not to buy something I would not have purchased at some point anyway (and I get most of that information through other avenues anyway).

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I watched the first ep (and only because I was told there was a dragon in it, dragons are cool), I wanted to puke I was so angry.

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I avoid HBO/ showtime shows because too much sex.

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Totally get what you're saying Rocket1111child

I've watched the first series and I really enjoyed it. The acting was brilliant, the set and props were authentic and the plotting / dialogue were tight and well-written.

BUT what has really stopped me from continuing on with the series was the rampant sexposition and horrible exploitation of women's bodies. I had a positively visceral reaction to each sex scene I saw that often deeply discomforted me to the extreme. From what I've heard it only gets worse and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to handle it.

The strange thing is I can handle the GoT books (expect reading about Ygritte and Jon Snow; dear god how I hated those scenes and Ygritte) but the series is way too much for me in that regard. I really hate how much HBO and GoT depend so much on the mantra of 'sex sells'. It has reached ridiculous proportions IMHO and is just plain offensive in many aspects. ( The adding of unnecessary and repulsive rape scenes in later seasons is reprehensible and gratuitous)

So yeah although I love Got in the books, TV wise it unnerves and upsets me way too much.

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BUT what has really stopped me from continuing on with the series was the rampant sexposition and horrible exploitation of women's bodies. I had a positively visceral reaction to each sex scene I saw that often deeply discomforted me to the extreme. From what I've heard it only gets worse and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to handle it.

Whenever I watch Netflix, I am guaranteed to see a naked woman every once in a while, and there's rarely naked men. Seriously, the media has to be more fair regarding nudity and gender/sex. I'm sure that there are even heterosexual men that has problems with the unfairness of treatment of the bodies which is typically assigned to a sex/gender, and would rather see more naked men than there is now on the media.

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With the sex and the violence on that show, I'm surprised that the FCC lets it happen.

I am a Game of Thrones fan. I like it because it's not a normal plot. There is no "good guy" who is fighting a "bad guy". Everyone is equally human. I think it does do a good job of being realistic. Not everyone will live. Not everyone will have a good life. Even people have to fight to survive, even if our fighting is with words. And all of that really hooks me in. The sex doesn't bother me anymore. I just ignore it.

At least they also show homosexual love and asexual characters.

I've really never seen a show with that kind of sex so... I can't think of any other examples.

HBO is a private network and the FCC have no jurisdiction there. They only regulate their publicly owned channels. All cable/dish providers bypass the FCC because they don't use those public dominions to broadcast their content. Your paying for the hardware to access that network. If however they want to broadcast on the FCC publicly owned channels then they must meet their standards.

I have watched GOT since the start to the last episode aired to date, didn't feel like their was much sex at all honestly. Yes occasionally you'd see some breasts or the occasional ass but that's about it. A few scenes here and there but they were mostly integral to the plot. Like the relationship between Jaime and Cersi... that is kind of a big deal. Yea there are a few shots of Tyrion being a lustful person with prostitutes but you rarely ever see actual sex just some mild nudity but that's part of him as a person. Its pretty hard getting a partner letting alone being intimate with others as a dwarf in such a world even while being in a very powerful family. Its also an integral part of the reason his father hates him so much because it embarrasses Tywin. He feels like his son is tarnishing his family name.

Sometimes I feel like some asexual people can have a very difficult time seeing the importance of sex in culture and how it just isn't always an activity done for recreation, pleasure, or baby making. Its part of an identity of most people in life and I would argue a part of an asexuals identity as well.

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BUT what has really stopped me from continuing on with the series was the rampant sexposition and horrible exploitation of women's bodies. I had a positively visceral reaction to each sex scene I saw that often deeply discomforted me to the extreme. From what I've heard it only gets worse and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to handle it.

Whenever I watch Netflix, I am guaranteed to see a naked woman every once in a while, and there's rarely naked men. Seriously, the media has to be more fair regarding nudity and gender/sex. I'm sure that there are even heterosexual men that has problems with the unfairness of treatment of the bodies which is typically assigned to a sex/gender, and would rather see more naked men than there is now on the media.

Definitely. My very sexual male friend refuses to watch GoT for that reason. Not even all sexuals like pointless sex scenes, and he's just as disturbed by rape scenes as we are.

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BUT what has really stopped me from continuing on with the series was the rampant sexposition and horrible exploitation of women's bodies. I had a positively visceral reaction to each sex scene I saw that often deeply discomforted me to the extreme. From what I've heard it only gets worse and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to handle it.

Whenever I watch Netflix, I am guaranteed to see a naked woman every once in a while, and there's rarely naked men. Seriously, the media has to be more fair regarding nudity and gender/sex. I'm sure that there are even heterosexual men that has problems with the unfairness of treatment of the bodies which is typically assigned to a sex/gender, and would rather see more naked men than there is now on the media.

I love Netflix especially since they have upgraded their anime section ( Death Note and Attack on Titan)

However when I tried to watch Marco Polo, I lasted for 20 minutes before I struggled to continue. My patience snapped when Marco Polo was allowed to enter the royal harem. That was a total WTF moment. And the concubines were ridiculous, pure sexploitation!

Every women that was encountered in Marco Polo was naked in the first episode at some point. It was pure chauvinism and misogyny heavy.

I certainly think there should be a greater gender balance in regards to that sought of thing. I mean, its 2015 for heavens sake! Cant we already advance from the dark ages of the 1950s?!

Heterosexual male privilege is too rampant IMHO.

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