PurebredMuggle Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I saw no mention of this here in the forums when I searched for it, so.... 'MOGII' stands for Marginalized Orientation, Gender Identity, and Intersex, basically just a easier way of saying LGBT(Q+). It covers all of the groups within the alphabet soup, easy to pronounce and you don't risk leaving someone out just to be able to shorten it down for convenience. It also doesn't include allies. I don't know much about how important people in here think it is to include 'allies'. Personally I feel it shouldn't be a problem as I've recognized that as an allied to other movements I'm not entitled or even in need of inclusion into those groups. That said I welcome other opinions. I would be a good thing for us ace/grey/demis as we so often are left out because it's to much hassle to say every letter. Just wanted to know what people thought about adapting MOGII in place of LBTG(Q+). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cereal Tendencies Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I like it :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PurebredMuggle Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Cool. :D I think I posted in the wrong forums. Might have been better in musings and rantings? Oh well, can't change it now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eidd Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I really liked it when i first heard about it but then i showed a friend (also queer) and she said she didn't really like it that much because she didn't want "marginalized" to be part of her identity. I thought it was a good point and i have mixed feelings now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronte Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't think it positively represents all groups, so no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PurebredMuggle Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 I really liked it when i first heard about it but then i showed a friend (also queer) and she said she didn't really like it that much because she didn't want "marginalized" to be part of her identity. I thought it was a good point and i have mixed feelings now. That is a good point. I guess the purpose is to not include hetero, as that isn't an marginalized orientation. It also acknowledges that people who aren't hetero are in one way or another marginalized whether we like it or not. I don't know myself how I can escape that unless I stopp being queer, and I obviously can't do that. I don't think it positively represents all groups, so no. How so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Makalasterlove Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I heard of MOGII. There's also a different variation of it that sounds better to the ears. MOGAI, it has the same meaning. I don't think it positively represents all groups, so no. What kind of groups is it missing out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PurebredMuggle Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 I heard of MOGII. There's also a different variation of it that sounds better to the ears. MOGAI, it has the same meaning. I don't think it positively represents all groups, so no. What kind of groups is it missing out? Yes I heard about that too. As far as I understand it, (but I'm not an expert on this, my information comes from limited sources) the first term was MOGA. Then it became MOGAI to include intersex people. When people who weren't very good allies started to include themselves, the A (stood fro alignment) was replaced and we got MOGII. I see people using both interchangeably, and it does roll better of the tongue. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronte Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 In relation to Eidd's post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elderberry Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I don't like the word "marginalized" and it's connotations, and I think I prefer another term I've seen floating around: GSM -- Gender and Sexual Minorities. It's way shorter and might actually get used by outsiders -- MOGII or MOGAI is still pretty alphabet soupy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyt Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 No and I like the term but I doubt that I'll start using it anytime soon coz I hate constantly explaining stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ace of Cakes Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I don't like the word "marginalized" and it's connotations, and I think I prefer another term I've seen floating around: GSM -- Gender and Sexual Minorities. It's way shorter and might actually get used by outsiders -- MOGII or MOGAI is still pretty alphabet soupy. Yeah, I think I would prefer GSRM (GSM but with romantic minorities included). Honestly though, I don't have a huge preference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byebye Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think I like GSRM more tbh. Most of the time I use LGBT+ tho. MOGAI sounds hella cute anyways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ficulnean Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I don't think we should be changing names, if just to conserve the momentum that this one already has behind it. That's the thing about movements: you latter get stuck with stuff you wish you could have picked better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janus the Fox Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 it don't sound at all easier to remember really for me... I prefer LGBT, for its simplicity, LGBTQIA is an alternative but GSM or Gender and Sexual Minorities or the GSRM a alternative to include Romantic Minorities is enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PurebredMuggle Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Don't think I've heard of GSRM/GSM. Does that include 'intersex.'? Concise and without the connotations of 'marginalized'. I still prefer something that's easier to say out loud, and MOGII/MOGAI does that. I'm thinking 'marginalized' could be switched with 'minority', or something else that could work. Minority Orientation, Gender Identity and Intersex? I don't think we should be changing names, if just to conserve the momentum that this one already has behind it. That's the thing about movements: you latter get stuck with stuff you wish you could have picked better. I agree with this. Like mentioned by Greyt, explaining it every time you mention it would get tiresome pretty fast. That said, I still feel it's important to have something shorter than LGBT+, and that includes everyone. If people like it, they like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ficulnean Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Don't think I've heard of GSRM/GSM. Does that include 'intersex.'? Concise and without the connotations of 'marginalized'. I still prefer something that's easier to say out loud, and MOGII/MOGAI does that. I'm thinking 'marginalized' could be switched with 'minority', or something else that could work. Minority Orientation, Gender Identity and Intersex? I don't think we should be changing names, if just to conserve the momentum that this one already has behind it. That's the thing about movements: you latter get stuck with stuff you wish you could have picked better. I agree with this. Like mentioned by Greyt, explaining it every time you mention it would get tiresome pretty fast. That said, I still feel it's important to have something shorter than LGBT+, and that includes everyone. If people like it, they like it. Ah, yes. A conscious modification of modification of LGBT+ may work. That would maintain ties to that movement, and raise awareness of the change by people wondering about if something slight was done with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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