Neutrois and Female nullification surgery?

[Being-In-Monochrome]

For the longest time, I always hated my vagina. I would look down and just wish it wasn't there. But I didn't want a penis either. I wished I could judt have nothing, just for me to be a human being rather han a gender.

For the last few years, I'd wanted to get my breasts, ovaries and uterus surgically removed, but I have recently come across the neutrois term and the surgery to acheive an agendered/neutrois body.

But... I still like long hair, frilly dresses, a lot of feminine appearance things to the maximum. It's like I want my sex to be neutral, but my gender to be feminine. Does that make sense?

It's all confusing to me, but I really would consider getting the full nullification, or radical vaginectomy i think is the word. It would make me so much more comfortable in my body, but I don't know if I'm just confused or... What. I'm definitely not cis but im not trans either, and I love femininity and such. Is it my asexual side speaking out to my body, saying I don't want reproductive organs? Or is it an official gender/sex?

Also, I would like to know the price and age limit in the U.S., and other countries I could go to to get it earlier/cheaper/safer, as I can't find any information on that.

Thank you!

[Diforto]

Does that make sense?

Yes, why wouldn't that make sense? Gender is so beautifully complex...

Is it my asexual side speaking out to my body, saying I don't want reproductive organs?

The asexy side of mine doesn't seem to really care, so I don't think that asexiness imply not wanting to have a sex. On the other side, I think that asexy people would me more likely to not want a sex than sexual people.

Or is it an official gender/sex?

Never seen the official list of sex and gender. Such list doesn't even exist. But I don't think any government have officialise it because social inertia.

Also, I would like to know the price and age limit in the U.S., and other countries I could go to to get it earlier/cheaper/safer, as I can't find any information on that.

I really don't know.

[Vyanni Krace]

I feel the same way, except I lean more towards masculine than feminine.

I suppose technically I am trans because I am bio-female, but I feel more male most days, and neutral the rest, but I also understand that desire to have a perfectly neutral body. Despite feeling more male I absolutely do not want a penis, but I don't want my female reproductive organs either.

[TheStarrySkai]

Its perfectly fine to want a gender neutral body. How you dress and how you act has nothing to do with anything, but how people view you [cause society is weird like that].

I want a gender neutral body. I would be so much more comfortable. Unlike you though I'm typically more masculine presenting. Apparently according to my friends and this french guy I met I look like a kpop idol [how i have no idea, don't ask me].

As for my gender. I have no idea. I've tried to look at people people of certain genders and try to feel their 'aura' or whatever, and then see what I feel. I feel both, depending on which one I focus one both auras can be more intense than the other. I'm probably over thinking the whole thing, but thats the only way I can think of when I try to understand gender.

[Amathy]

Sex, gender identity, and gender expression are different things. Just because most of society is a bit behind in educating people about this doesn't invalidad how anybody feels. Theres more than just male and female in both gender and sex. Gender expression doesnt have to correlate to either. Mix and match the above terms however you want and anyway you do it makes sense because that's how you feel.

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Being-In-Monochrome

Hi and Welcome to AVEN.

I will do my best to tell you how I feel and see if it helps you a bit. As far as were to go and how to have the surgery/process done I can’t help.
I can say that I too am neutrois for sure. I don’t want to physically be a girl but I don’t want guy parts either because I would still hate my body. I want no physical/sexual signs of either male or female on my body at all. Pm me if you want.

I ran into a female health problem a few years back and I was praying that they would find something and remove my female reproductive organs, as I have wanted to get rid of them at age 21 and I’m now 26. Yes I’m like you I don’t what I call and “female markers.”

But... I still like long hair, frilly dresses, a lot of feminine appearance things to the maximum. It's like I want my sex to be neutral, but my gender to be feminine. Does that make sense?- Being-In-Monochrome

Yes it makes perfect sense.

Is it my asexual side speaking out to my body, saying I don't want reproductive organs? Or is it an official gender/sex? Being-In-Monochrome
That is the million dollar question my friend. I have been wondering about that one for a long long time.
I hated going through puberty for me and still want a “refund.” I want a do over where I can choose the body that I want.

http://gender-identity.deviantart.com/

I just found this in Deivant art and there is an artist that does sort of like genderless art. I’m trying to find Loh’s work. (I believe that is the name. If I find it I will let you know.) Also Mark Ryden does some art as well you can just google him. The image is called the apology.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/c9/ff/93c9ff0a52495b39f50ec099fa2badd5.jpg

I hope all of this helps.

[Moon Thief]

I agree with others that it makes sense. Sex and gender can be separated.

I know that neutrois, agender, and genderless are confusing for people to differentiate. With neutrois going in the idea of a complete nullification of the body that it gears more towards your sex rather than the representation of gender.

Gender is so confusing in general, but whether you want to wear dresses and act feminine does not need to change how you feel physically.

[Palovana]

Sounds like your gender is neutrois and your gender expression is feminine. :)

I am much the same about my body. I don't want a vagina or a penis. When I was younger I used to pretend it wasn't there, and tried to pretend other people didn't have genitals, either. My chest I have more of an ambiguous relationship with. It doesn't bother me too much that it's there, but I absolutely loathe it when people stare. My gender expression isn't really feminine, it's more a combination of masculine/feminine qualities (whatever the hell that means).

I believe in the US and Canada (and probably in most/all developed countries), that you can obtain the surgery legally by yourself when you're 18. As far as finding something inexpensive, that's difficult to do. It's difficult already to find a doctor who is willing to do sexual reassignment/nullification surgery, and in any case, I'd rather shell out a fortune if I had to in order to have someone do it safely and correctly than take my chances with a less expensive operation by a surgeon that I find questionable. Also, it's difficult (at least from what I've read) to obtain a completely sexless body. Labial reduction surgery, hysterectomies, and the like are helpful, but I don't know of any surgery that can get rid of all of it.