Oral sex (TMI )

[The Great WTF]

Thank you, Nao.

[Guest]

Wait .. What? If you look at a naked girl from the front you see vagina. How does it not face you if you are sitting down? Isn't it the same location that the penis is? If you could only put something in it with butt in air how can people have sex from the front???

The sexual positions from the front are, in my opinion, extremely uncomfortable. You're at a weird angle and the guy's penis is at a weird angle (for things like reverse cowgirl and stuff). Given the vaginal opening is much easier to reach from behind. Except for missionary, where the guys penis naturally goes low and it's more comfortable.

And Naosuu found some non-squicky ways of explaining anatomy complete with pictures. I was trying to find something that didn't show things in too much detail to be safe. So thank you Naosuu! :)

[Mostly Peaceful Ryan]

Possible TMI or just me being an idiot male and not even knowing it.

Well....let's say you are sitting around the house naked and eating an ice cream cone on a burning hot summer day. The AC is off because you want to be cheap so the ice cream and naked time is acting as a means to stay cool. Let's say that the ice cream was to melt at an alarmingly fast pace and fell onto you. In theory would it be possible for said ice cream to accidentally fall into a vagina? They kind of point up though because they have those weird looking like hanger doors on them....you know the little squiggly thing that is really long on some girls and creepy or really short and almost not even there!?Anyway if those were folded down possibly something could get into it.....so theoretically it may be possible but in reality most girls don't sit around eating sticky foods naked (or so I would hope) and don't spill things into themselves. If guys had vaginas I think we would most definitely spill stuff in or on them all the time because guys are gross and eat food naked all the time.....cuts down on needing napkins if you just have to take a shower during the day anyway!

Forget I asked about the ice cream pls

No, not unless I was standing on my head with my legs spread and bending over backwards to eat my ice cream between my own legs.

Doesn't every girl eat their Ice cream naked in this position :lol: This is the best way to get the most flavor out of ice cream :lol:

Edit: also I think the poster of that ice cream comment was talking about preforming on a male partner as she mentioned pregnancy and uses the pronouns she. (But for god sake I don't want to read someones theory about a guy getting Ice cream in his penis >.<)

[marki]

Thank you naosuu!!!! The squiggly is indeed now going to be called the labia minus by me from now on! I find labia spooky looking!

Also......gross! I doodled through health class on the girl section because I never realized I may someday have to understand it....at the time my thought process was I have a wang so I don't need to know about girls.

So....um is the valva the same size on all girls or does it change size like how guys are different sized?

[Ineffable Aardwolf]

Thank you naosuu!!!! The squiggly is indeed now going to be called the labia minus by me from now on! I find labia spooky looking!

Also......gross! I doodled through health class on the girl section because I never realized I may someday have to understand it....at the time my thought process was I have a wang so I don't need to know about girls.

So....um is the valva the same size on all girls or does it change size like how guys are different sized?

I didn't even have sex ed in school because my parents didn't sign the consent form. :b

Every person's body is unique. They come in all types of size and shape.

[Ianigsy]

The relevant page of the biology textbook when I was at school (all boys private school, early to mid 1980s) was a vertical cross-section of the female genitalia from hip to hip.

I had no idea what the outside looked like with skin on until I was about 20 and at university- and that was thanks to somebody leaving their porn in the communal phone booth in my accommodation.

[marki]

It is sad how lacking education is.....I have learned more about girls bodies by asking girls on this site than I ever would have learned in school!

[pnnn]

It is sad how lacking education is.....I have learned more about girls bodies by asking girls on this site than I ever would have learned in school!

what are you going to do with all this knowledge now

[marki]

Try to find a girl to let me point out the parts on! That way she will think "Wow....he really understands my parts well".

Lol I am so less scared of the bits and pieces now thanks to this thread....all you wonderful girls who helped me out are really great!

[pnnn]

thanks to this thread....all you wonderful girls who helped me out are really great!

on behalf of all of us ladies, you're welcome

[marki]

Yay!!! Nice girls....they so do exist!

[Artistofnoname]

I find it to be unnatural. What is the use? Plus I have moral reservations about it personally.

When I was in high school I was given many opportunities to do this but strongly refused. I just can't understand how anyone can just ask for things like that as if its nothing strange. Cause lets face it there is nothing exactly modest,clean, or conservative about it.

Maybe its just the fact I am an aromantic asexual and very repulsed by things like sex,nakedness (heck I shower in a surf shirt so I don't see myself. don't worry I still get myself clean even with it on and have done it for years) , and many other related things.

[Amberluna]

I used to be disgusted by the idea of it, but I met my current partner (fiance, actually) and was surprisingly okay with it. We met online and talked/dated for a couple years before meeting. When we met in person, we just had chemistry and things happened. I gave him blowjobs and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. But I'm demisexual and I'm attracted to him, so the chemistry probably helped.

RECEIVING oral on the other hand, no way. Never ever ever. That disgusts me. But I have body image issues and hate being looked at and touched. So, yeah.

[boxed toast]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

[The Great WTF]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

Why do you assume it's uncomfortable for their partner?

[Ineffable Aardwolf]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

Good people don't do that. Just because someone is sexual or enjoys oral sex does not mean that he or she enjoys making his/her partner uncomfortable. In fact, sexuals who knowingly date asexuals generally take extreme care not to hurt their partners in any way and often feel bad for wanting sex. (At least mine does.)

[Guest]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

If it makes you uncomfortable and you tell them and they don't care, that's called either a jerk or a rapist (depending on how their reaction goes), not a sexual. Sexuals generally want mutual pleasure, or at least, freely given consent. If something makes you uncomfortable, say you won't do it and don't stick around anyone that tries to make you anyway.

[NapalmNovocaine]

I’ve seen a lot of comments about cleanliness, and that certainly merits a mention. When you stick your face in someone’s crotch, there is going to be a more “personal” odor there than you would detect if you were to stick your face in an area that isn’t normally covered with two layers of clothing, nestled between the legs, and responsible for secreting a number of bodily fluids. Is that gross? Well, it can be.

A person’s natural scent plays a huge role in attraction. I’m not talking about the store-bought fragrances or the body sprays they might use. I’m talking about sweat and pheromones. If sexual attraction is something that you absolutely do not experience, you probably won’t find another person’s natural scent intoxicating. Having said that, there is still a standard of cleanliness…

There is the natural scent that tends to be pleasant or unpleasant, depending on whether you are attracted to the person (notice the subtle difference between being attracted and finding someone attractive). And then there is FUNK. There is no excuse for funk. There are people who don’t change their knickers often enough, people who don't bathe often enough, and people who don’t wipe or “shake” properly after using the toilet. Sorry if that’s gross. Those individuals are nasty, and their junk is funky as a result. I’ve encountered a few of them, and I smelled the evidence of one of them on my cheating ex’s hipster beard. ICK and double ICK.

[NapalmNovocaine]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

I have to jump in on this because it's an enormous pet peeve of mine.

It's been my experience that most people have seriously overinflated opinions of their "abilities" in bed. This is why we've probably all heard idiotic statements along the lines of, "One night with me, and you won't be asexual anymore." And there are reasons why these overinflated opinions exist. A lot of people are incapable of genuine empathy. They are able to imagine how THEY would feel in a certain scenario, but they are incapable of imagining how someone with a different viewpoint, different life experiences, and different personal preferences might feel in the same scenario. So they do unto others and they would have others do unto them. I'm usually a big fan of Jesus (I'm not religious, yet I really appreciate his teachings from a philosophical standpoint), but this statement is actually a very, very incomplete explanation of having empathy because it fails to account for individual differences.

Empathy really gets lost when introverts and extroverts try to relate. The extrovert will be all up in the introvert's face because the extrovert would want someone up in his or her face all the time. This thoroughly irritates the introvert. The introvert, on the other hand, leaves the extrovert alone because that's how the introvert would prefer to be treated, and this just hurts the extrovert's feelings because he or she feels abandoned. When sexuals try to relate to asexuals, it is similar to an extrovert trying to relate to an introvert. This isn't to say that all sexuals are extroverts and all asexuals are introverts, it's just an analogy.

Sexuals, because of their own experiences and personal preferences, cannot imagine what it is like to not desire sexual contact. They don't understand that asexuality is an orientation and they erroneously conclude that the asexual is just in some kind of "slump" from which he or she needs to be liberated. And the sexual individual has just the penis or vagina for the job! They base their inflated assessments on their own preferences, and on the reactions of their former lovers. This is dangerous, though. Not everyone desires the same thing in bed, not everyone responds the same way to a particular act or technique, and that is very difficult for myopic thinkers to comprehend. This is why there is NO SUCH THING as a ubiquitously amazing lover. Someone might be terrible in bed according to one person, and dynamite according to another.

The pleasure that sexuals derive from making their partner do something that is uncomfortable for them is purely egocentric. This type of thinking is typically found at Piaget's preoperational stage of development, which usually occurs between the ages of 3 and 6. Yes, many individuals regress to the mentality of a 5-year-old when it comes to sex. But it isn't sadistic. They honestly believe that they are doing their partner a favor. Liberating him or her. Rocking his or her world. They are completely incapable of fathoming that the act in question is uncomfortable or unpleasant. And if the partner objects, the tendency of the sexual is to say that the partner is "wrong," "crazy," or "lying."

My ex husband didn't like cake. CAKE!!! It didn't bother me personally because I have a sugar intolerance anyway (does that make me a lousy asexual???), but he used to get quite offended when others exclaimed, "How can you not like cake??? Everyone likes cake!!! You just haven't had MY cake. Take a bite. You'll change your mind." And yet... when I said that I didn't like sex, all I ever heard from him was, "How can you not like sex??? Everyone likes sex!!! You just need more of MY d**k. Spread your legs. You'll change your mind." He thought he was doing me a favor. Just as the cake pushers thought they were doing for him.

[cemeterywitch]

I'm so sick of the "vaginas are dirty" statements. If you really think that, you don't deserve a woman. Quit the sexist crap.

[goat cheese]

Marki, about the hands and fingers thing, I've already heard that pleasing a woman with a finger is unsanitary. Not so unsanitary for you, but for her. Your fingers are dirty. They touch everything from day to day. Like they say "dirty hands spread disease, wash them". In restaurants you must wash hands before beginning work.

[Ziggy_G]

Wait........they don't pee out of the vagina? It is the button that is actually a tiny micro penis yeah? So if that is what gets girls off why would anyone ever have to put anything inside anywhere? Wow.....girls are too damn confusing...let them just pleasure themselves and I would just make cookies in the other room.

I'm on the "Hell No!" team here. I always considered Oral sex like a step more intimate (and repulsive) than penetrative sex, I remember how shocked i was the first time I heard people talking about doing that but not being ready for penetrative sex yet and how completely backwards and confusing that seemed. After thinking about it I kinda got ppls logic but still it feels a step even more to me.

I wish I had a guy with the view that I could just go please myself while they made cookies. That is just the dream.

The only thing more perfect would be if it was cake instead

[marki]

Hey??? I'm single let's mingle!

[Ineffable Aardwolf]

I'm so sick of the "vaginas are dirty" statements. If you really think that, you don't deserve a woman. Quit the sexist crap.

First of all, it is NOT sexist! Just being icked out by a thing (especially a wet, slimy cave that never sees the light of day, smells like fish, and on top of that floods with red once a month) does NOT make someone hate a group of people or see them as lesser.

Second, please review reasoning in parentheses above. Vaginas are gross and scary for just those reasons. They're also difficult to clean (more so than penises, because of the way they're positioned) and feel nasty reaching into them anyway.

Don't be the jerk who accuses other people of hating just because they don't agree with you.

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[boxed toast]

In responce to my previous comment. I have know numerous sexuals who have demanded/begged/bargained with their girlfriends for oral sex despite the fact that they found it uncomfortable and gross. In my experience this is just how sexuals are.

and to the people having arguments genetalia being gross, it is gross on both genders. That's just the way humans are, and it has nothing to do about someone diserving a relationship.

[Purnkin Spurce]

I don't like it for myself at all. I've performed once but never received. I was too insecure and no properly groomed at the time. The thought of someone going..down there...really does freak me out. It's such a vulnerable private place that only I've seen or completely touched. So basically the only person I don't mind messing with it, is me. Mostly I just think oral sex is the weirdest form or sex. I've watched porn, soft and hardcore and let me tell you...the things I've seen people do and call it sex is utterly disturbing.

[Purnkin Spurce]

I've never been able to understand how sexuals can take pleasure in something that is uncomfortable for their partner. It's just wrong. How can you enjoy making someone you love uncomfortable?

Why do you assume it's uncomfortable for their partner?

I would be the one to assume this for SOME asexuals. Yes, some do feel uncomfortable with it, as if it's a chore or just something they dread.

[Guest]

In responce to my previous comment. I have know numerous sexuals who have demanded/begged/bargained with their girlfriends for oral sex despite the fact that they found it uncomfortable and gross. In my experience this is just how sexuals are.

and to the people having arguments genetalia being gross, it is gross on both genders. That's just the way humans are, and it has nothing to do about someone diserving a relationship.

DEMANDING - again, makes them a jerk, not a sexual. Bargaining means the other party would have to agree. And asking for something is fine, though begging seems a bit... eh. Many sexuals are perfectly FINE accepting a "No, I do not want to" and leaving it. :)

Oh and there is a difference in "personally, genitals gross me out" and "vaginas are dirty and unclean" - one is an expression of personal repulsion, the other is something that has been used to shame women for decades. Wording is important, though I know most people in here just meant the first. :)

[cemeterywitch]

I'm so sick of the "vaginas are dirty" statements. If you really think that, you don't deserve a woman. Quit the sexist crap.

First of all, it is NOT sexist! Just being icked out by a thing (especially a wet, slimy cave that never sees the light of day, smells like fish, and on top of that floods with red once a month) does NOT make someone hate a group of people or see them as lesser.

Second, please review reasoning in parentheses above. Vaginas are gross and scary for just those reasons. They're also difficult to clean (more so than penises, because of the way they're positioned) and feel nasty reaching into them anyway.

Don't be the jerk who accuses other people of hating just because they don't agree with you.

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Everything you said is bs and based on your fears. Vaginas are NOT harder to clean, they dont smell like fish, yadayada. You are just perpetuating the hatred of vaginas. Youre trying to justify your sexism with "well vaginas are gross and thats how everyone thinks so I'm right." You are not an ally to women. Now you're calling me a jerk? HA! You must be with the MRA.

[Guest]

I don't think vaginas are dirty and smell bad. They have specific , musk-like smell but it's not stinky! It can happen only in infections. As I know there are perfumes based on its smell. Moreover diet also has an influence on this smell. . When I've been starting my gluten-free diet. my infections when far away and my vagina's smell is just very nice one :)