Sally Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:We're missing an important point in all this... what does it say for the unloving humans who'd be replaced by lovebots? There'd be an awful lot of unwanted human curmudgeons out there. I can easily imagine that fate befalling 2 of my former girlfriends. It doesn't say anything, because I doubt if there are many people who would classify other people as a bunch of "unwanted human curmudgeons". That's a pretty nasty thing to say. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said: We're missing an important point in all this... what does it say for the unloving humans who'd be replaced by lovebots? There'd be an awful lot of unwanted human curmudgeons out there. I can easily imagine that fate befalling 2 of my former girlfriends. It doesn't say anything, because I doubt if there are many people who would classify other people as a bunch of "unwanted human curmudgeons". That's a pretty nasty thing to say. Not really nasty, when one considers the people in question are generally critical of others and have an air of meanspiritedness about them in everything they say and do. Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:44 PM, said: Sally, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:Woodworker1968, on 06 Jun 2014 - 10:25 PM, said: We're missing an important point in all this... what does it say for the unloving humans who'd be replaced by lovebots? There'd be an awful lot of unwanted human curmudgeons out there. I can easily imagine that fate befalling 2 of my former girlfriends. It doesn't say anything, because I doubt if there are many people who would classify other people as a bunch of "unwanted human curmudgeons". That's a pretty nasty thing to say. Not really nasty, when one considers the people in question are generally critical of others and have an air of meanspiritedness about them in everything they say and do. But your comment above sounds critical of others and meanspirited. Don't you understand that? Read it as though someone else said it; you might get it then. Link to post Share on other sites
MadRat Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think society is already messed up. At least, lovebots could save people from getting hurt and used by other people. Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 MadRat, on 06 Jun 2014 - 11:36 PM, said:I think society is already messed up. At least, lovebots could save people from getting hurt and used by other people. There's always hurt in the world, but there's also love. Robots aren't going to give you real love, no matter how much you wish that were true. You'd just be the "user" in that kind of relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
noparlpf Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Lonely people would buy lovebots and give the Finger to the hot chicks and sly guys who think it's fun to deny love and sex to lonely people... this also would seem like losers stealing victory from winners. Ew, the entitlement. That's not how it works. Sex is not something you deserve. They don't owe it to you. They're not maliciously denying you what you want. If you're not getting any, maybe it's because you sound like a sexist jerk? There'd be an epidemic of revenge-motivated lesbianism as creepy men dump women for lovebots, but it wouldn't really work because it wouldn't force many men to feel guilty enough to dump their female lovebots... Uh, no. Homosexuality is not a choice. "Revenge-motivated lesbianism" is not a thing. Ew. Promiscuous men would think they'd died and gone to heaven, because all the creepers, midgets, wimps, virgins, and other "defective" guys would no longer want "original" women... I'm pretty sure plenty of those guys are interested in romance and not just sex. Wouldn't it be the promiscuous men who would pick the sexbots? The birthrate would crash Good, I don't want those kinds of people breeding anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Exosk Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 There's that degree of natural 'error' that humans possess and current robots don't. People tend to know the difference and desire certain interaction. Being with a person may be more complex than being with a robot, in some situations the opposite may be true, but that wouldn't make either relationship 'less valuable' except for by personal interpretation. There are people that will deeply distinguish between what is human and what is not and hold a lot of emotional connection to those feelings as long as they can know the difference. This may actually abolish a degree of racism, because people will instead be focusing on how 'inhuman' androids are to their personal definitions and attack them instead. This does not harm if machines do not have AI, however those that choose the company of a robot may be highly harassed or shamed by their society and peers. There is generally a desire by each generation of human teens to be different than the previous generations and I do not think we will see one social habit take presence in a society unless it's some kind of fashion (which may 'come and go'). Robots with AI would simply be like expanding the diversity in the population, in terms of society, because they can work and contribute to success, progress, and economy. A very realistic android with a sense of self may reject interaction with people who are unpleasant, therefore not actually satisfying the idea that they are mindless sexual slaves for exploitation by people with interests considered bad or sick. It would also add a degree of complexity similar to interactions 'flesh' people have. I also think it would be a terrible crime for someone to take a robot with AI (that has developed personality and become accustomed to a specific mechanical body) and have the AI removed for the sake of pleasure. I think that would be a form of rape. Oddly, overall I think there would be a huge gap in what people desire with 'lovebots'. On one end of the spectrum, there are people who would want it to be as 'realistic' as possible and whether or not they are satisfied depends really on whether they are craving human interaction or simply the sexual experience. On the other end, you have people who want satisfaction, but do not want the pleasure to come from a person. There is that detachment on the asexual side where people still masturbate or where people are repulsed by other people involving sexual activity. Manufacturing one extreme or the other is possible, but trying to get the degree of 'real' or 'human' designed for each person is more of a tailor-like business than mass-production. I think there would still be a decent number of people who do not want interaction with lovebots at all. Later generations may not experience the shock of lovebots as a new idea, but I don't think that means they will let such things take a strong hold on their lives indefinitely. Some people are simply lazy and the human life span is long enough for people to want to experience new and different things and counter that. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Still, I'd place an order for a custom lovebot right now if they were available. Link to post Share on other sites
NotAllHere Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Oh, just so people are aware, humanoid robots are closer to becoming commercially available- and they certainly already exist. I couldn't find the exact one I wanted, which is a humanoid robot female dancing, and is so realistic that you don't notice robot until someone points it out. I'm sure you can youtube it and find it. http://www.wimp.com/robottalks/ I'm afraid of what is going to happen with robots and AI. Link to post Share on other sites
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