SorryNotSorry Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I happen to be one of the people who'd benefit from the invention of a custom-built lovebot, and even as an American, I'm surprised that China hasn't started making them. With over 30 million missing women, China has a damn good incentive to perfect lovebots and mass-produce them cheaply enough to export millions of them to the US---but I understand how that would mess up American society pretty royally. Presuming most lovebots would be females bought by men, the creeps who don't deserve love (according to posters on the singles & dating boards) would at last have partners that they could do sick things with, and the 'bots wouldn't balk... it would just seem wrong, like losers stealing victory from winners. A small number of women would buy male lovebots, but near as I can tell, even a perfect made-to-order male lovebot would not be everything such women would want in a man. Lonely people would buy lovebots and give the Finger to the hot chicks and sly guys who think it's fun to deny love and sex to lonely people... this also would seem like losers stealing victory from winners. There'd be an epidemic of revenge-motivated lesbianism as creepy men dump women for lovebots, but it wouldn't really work because it wouldn't force many men to feel guilty enough to dump their female lovebots... Promiscuous men would think they'd died and gone to heaven, because all the creepers, midgets, wimps, virgins, and other "defective" guys would no longer want "original" women... The birthrate would crash, and it wouldn't be very long before black-hat hackers started specializing in making shady or downright illegal modifications to lovebots in exchange for tidy sums from the bots' owners... Holy-roller types would bawl and beg for divine intervention, but none would come... Eventually, nursing homes would be inundated with bitter old narcissists... So, I guess in the big picture, lovebots might not be such a hot idea after all, regardless of the benefit I'd gain from having one. Link to post Share on other sites
girltwink666 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'm feelin a lil ornery so sorry that I'm targeting your post but you've made a few arguments that I see as problematic. Lonely people would buy lovebots and give the Finger to the hot chicks and sly guys who think it's fun to deny love and sex to lonely people... this also would seem like losers stealing victory from winners. Nobody is denying anyone sex, because nobody gets to claim they have the right to have sex with people. Let people make their own choices. There'd be an epidemic of revenge-motivated lesbianism as creepy men dump women for lovebots, but it wouldn't really work because it wouldn't force many men to feel guilty enough to dump their female lovebots... This is assuming that being a lesbian is not inherent. Which is completely not true and erases the identities of gay women! A small number of women would buy male lovebots, but near as I can tell, even a perfect made-to-order male lovebot would not be everything such women would want in a man. I'm not really sure why you would assume this. Why would women act any different than men? That sounds kind of slut-shamey Also your entire point is a bit heteronormative idk I don't want to sound harsh or anything but please take my points into consideration. Also could you point me to whatever Lovebot you are referring to, because when I google it, it comes up with a pretty neat street art campaign but I don't guess that's what you're talking about ahaha Link to post Share on other sites
Zerο Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So many assumptions being made here. Link to post Share on other sites
Amoeba-Proteus Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 All I'm going to say, is I personally feel that it says something huge about people, if they're so obsessed with sex that they feel the need to have a bot around to screw 24/7. And besides that, the fact that there are so many more important things out there that we should be worrying about over developing a life-sized, humanoid sex toy...That's all... Link to post Share on other sites
Braydin Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Love bots to me are an extension of pornography and self gratification paraphernalia. All the arguments for and against porn or other paraphernalia like flesh-lights or vibrators is the same for love bots and society has yet to crumble. Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I would love a robot that I could cuddle with.... Link to post Share on other sites
WhenSummersGone Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I would cuddle with one if they were soft. I think we already have blow up dolls and other toys that look like genitalia, but I think for most people it's not the same as an actual human being. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 I would love a robot that I could cuddle with.... I would cuddle with one if they were soft. I think we already have blow up dolls and other toys that look like genitalia, but I think for most people it's not the same as an actual human being. That's what I'm talking about. Society could handle a couple thousand people with lovebots, but if millions got them, we're talking serious disruption. For one thing, there wouldn't be any money in online dating or professional matchmaking... or in divorce law. Link to post Share on other sites
littleheartsofjoy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Eh, I think I would rather stay single than have a lovebot. I don't want sex and I wouldn't want it period but nope, give me a human (preferably male) please. You have a point though, but there are things that only humans can do for other humans. A lovebot can't be there for me when I'm sick, they can't remember when my birthday is, we can't have enjoyable conversations, I can go on. I would rather go without cuddles than have one of those to give me one. I'm good. Link to post Share on other sites
My alias Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Not sure how I feel about it I'm sure in it will happen someday but I don't agree with your statements. I feel like is pretty shallow to say some people don't deserve love, and that love is something that has winners and losers. These are relationships that you seem to be assigning binary values 0-loser 1- winner And usually it is more complex than that you are forgetting all the numbers in between. While social media already is a disaster in face to face interaction I do think that lovebots would damage American culture. Presuming most lovebots would be females bought by men, the creeps who don't deserve love (according to posters on the singles & dating boards) would at last have partners that they could do sick things with, and the 'bots wouldn't balk... it would just seem wrong, like losers stealing victory from winners.Promiscuous men would think they'd died and gone to heaven, because all the creepers, midgets, wimps, virgins, and other "defective" guys would no longer want "original" women... Link to post Share on other sites
Philip027 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 they can't remember when my birthday is, Technically they can, but only if you remember to program them to! Link to post Share on other sites
Ronny Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I used to like the idea, and thought that it would help people who are lonely. But now I consider the idea, I'm less in favour of it. Why, you ask? Well a few reasons: First of all, let's say you lust after someone, are rebuffed, but cannot accept your rejection. What's to stop you from altering a robot and stealing the identity of another person, owning their image and circumventing their will? The idea makes me very nervous. Worse, is the fact that an intelligent robot, capable of mimicking affection and humanity is a life form. Just because a creature processes knowledge in a different form to us, does not diminish their rights as a person. We would be creating life solely to serve us. A beautiful creature of steel and gears and wheels, an elegantly crafted creature forged by the finest minds on the planet, and what would we use it for? A cheap sexual thrill. Just as no human owes fealty to his God for the fluke of his creation, no robot would owe servitude to the hands that constructed him. I want robots, yes. But not for sex. I would love to be friends with a robot, to be kind to them, to hang out with them and grow close to someone with such a different mind to my own. To use them as a prostitute seems distasteful, even cruel. Link to post Share on other sites
Nogitsune Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I find the idea that "lovebots" would help prevent sexual assault laughable. Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel Combat Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 They would certainly win beauty pageants with no problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Tja Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 They would certainly win beauty pageants with no problem. Oh Squirrel! Tsk, tsk! Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yay I want a Japanese love bot please! Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ronny, on 17 Apr 2014 - 09:20 AM, said: A beautiful creature of steel and gears and wheels, an elegantly crafted creature forged by the finest minds on the planet, and what would we use it for? A cheap sexual thrill. Just the thought of having sex with something that has steel and gears and wheels is extremely painful. :o Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Nah..Sally...these will be more like terminator cyborgs. Fleshy not like all metal and stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Ronny Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ronny, on 17 Apr 2014 - 09:20 AM, said: A beautiful creature of steel and gears and wheels, an elegantly crafted creature forged by the finest minds on the planet, and what would we use it for? A cheap sexual thrill. Just the thought of having sex with something that has steel and gears and wheels is extremely painful. :o Indeed! Hence why having sex with them would be so inappropriate. They would be as beautiful and intricate as a finely crafted watch. Also, consider how their brains would work, how fast, how powerful. I believe that the mind of a robot would be superior to that of a human, in almost every respect save for creativity. We would be designing a superior life form and then subjugating them. Honestly, it would be like using the Mona Lisa as a dinner plate. Link to post Share on other sites
Sally Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ronny, on 17 Apr 2014 - 2:33 PM, said: Sally, on 17 Apr 2014 - 2:14 PM, said: Ronny, on 17 Apr 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:Ronny, on 17 Apr 2014 - 09:20 AM, said: A beautiful creature of steel and gears and wheels, an elegantly crafted creature forged by the finest minds on the planet, and what would we use it for? A cheap sexual thrill. Just the thought of having sex with something that has steel and gears and wheels is extremely painful. :o Indeed! Hence why having sex with them would be so inappropriate. They would be as beautiful and intricate as a finely crafted watch. Also, consider how their brains would work, how fast, how powerful. I believe that the mind of a robot would be superior to that of a human, in almost every respect save for creativity. We would be designing a superior life form and then subjugating them. Honestly, it would be like using the Mona Lisa as a dinner plate. But I was thinking about the physical pain. Picture a gear -- it has sharp edges. Steel is not exactly pillow-like. Wheels whirl around. Yikes. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Personally, I'd choose to have my lovebot built without any sexual orifices ('bots can't have babies, and anyways few people would want 'bots that could piss or poop), but most men would want them to have some semblance of a vagina. I'm thinking this would be a blind tube made of silicone with a jackhammer-like piston thingy surrounding it, to give the owner's willy a violent throttling (forget that "slow and easy" BS). I'd program my lovebot to play chess and sing... though it would kind of suck that she'd never have to eat. Link to post Share on other sites
thylacine Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 If China built cheap sex "fembots" (I got that word from the "Bionic Woman" TV show, if anyone remembers that episode), then I am sure a lot of creepsters would buy them. There would probably be catalog mail order, or something. You could pick blonde, brunette, redhead, whatever... These guys would be in heaven. Maybe they can invent fembots that can cook, clean, answer the phone, shine your shoes, fetch your newspaper, wax your car, sweep the driveway, do the dishes, find your TV remote control -- No, better, the fembot would also be a TV remote control! Inside the fembot would also be a mini-fridge with beer. The fembot would also have a built in microwave to cook pizza, fries, burgers, bacon, food that men love! She would keep your beer cold, give you an oven hot pepperoni pizza, change the TV channel, and after the football game, hey, you can do anything else you want. We are talking "guy heaven!" She would never get tired, or pissed off from being taken for granted, either. She would just repeat, over and over again, "yes, master." But seriously, maybe if this was a reality, it would give creepy guys "someone" to come home to so they will leave real women alone and just quit bothering girls who aren't interested? Creepsters are constantly bothering ladies who are not interested, but if they had a nice fembot to go home to, it would get them all off the streets! Let's hope some genius invents an affordable fembot soon! Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Don't call people a creepster because they like Asian looking women/ bots!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Eh, it would just be a matter of time until they'd come up with a VR rig to remote control them as a replacement body... and honestly, I found the scenario of Surrogates outright utopian, and would have loved to live in that world. (Well, minus the damn Luddites, and James Cromwell's & Bruce Willis' characters... :p) Link to post Share on other sites
Nogitsune Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Ew. Yeah, sure, giving creepy men "women" who are literal objects they can do anything they want with would totally reduce misogyny and violence against women. Omg and I can already see the new vile excuses. "But I thought she was a robot!" "It's not fair some men can't afford lovebots, no wonder they turn to crime." And people would use this shit to fetishize groups so openly you couldn't even look away and every creepy racial, sexist stereotype would almost literally come to life whenever someone wished. Nope. Link to post Share on other sites
SorryNotSorry Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Not to mention you'd get shady hackers who'd mod lovebots to look like animals, frightened children, etc etc. Matt McMullen, the guy who runs Abyss Creations (the company that makes the Realdoll, one of which was featured in "Lars And The Real Girl") once said he had to turn down a guy who asked him "kin ye make some that look lak mah dawgs?" I can't make this stuff up. Apparently the guy had a couple of German shepherds that died. And I worked with one guy 16 years ago who admitted to me that he fantasized about sex with mentally disabled women... talk about warped. He'd probably want a lovebot made up to look like that "I can count to potato" girl... sick bastard. <_< Link to post Share on other sites
Zerο Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm not really sure where this conversation is going, but it's getting pretty disturbing. Link to post Share on other sites
marki Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Why do people view this as some depraved sexual item? What about someone like myself who is ace and is socially awkward? I have a hard time finding girls who like me for who I am. If I could have a robot who could look pretty and feel nice to cuddle with as well as being able to help keep me company that would be great! It wouldn't be about sex for all people. I only feel like users of robots would face serious hate crimes from angry members of society and it would be very taboo to take your robots in public. Link to post Share on other sites
Ashmedai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 A small number of women would buy male lovebots, but near as I can tell, even a perfect made-to-order male lovebot would not be everything such women would want in a man. A perfect man with everything a women would want in him is not enough for such women that want things in men. :P Besides, I'm pretty sure theres all sorts of weird sex toys floating around already. Link to post Share on other sites
WoodwindWhistler Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I feel like in certain situations, the bot would take tension off negotiating for sex. Your partner doesn't want to do it as often as you do? Here's a solution. So, it seems it would improve some areas, and worsen others. Those who already have healthy behavoirs but extra desire would benefit. Those who have bad coping skills in the first place would fall further. Or would they? What if, with their sexual needs met, they began to interact with people . . . just for being people. And not objects. Because the robots filled that role. What if, with that concern out of the way, they collectively re-discovered that platonic desires to interact? That those are still needs, too, and not the fringe things far subordinate to "relationship" needs that they have been considered? It's hard to say. If we invented a robot that could truly imitate sex well enough for the brain to accept it as "real," maybe we would, in our daily lives, explore and realize what makes humans human besides sex. And heck knows that's been needed in this culture for a long time. Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic. (In other words, I don't think we'll be able to stop it if it starts, so what are the possible benefits.) I know that if it was shown to reduce human trafficking, I'd be investing dollars in it and/or gifting them to people or something. :P Link to post Share on other sites
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