Asexuals aren't needed. (A Ranting.)

[SilentD]

ahhh!!!!!

"asexuals aren't needed."

Someone said that at school the other day.

I was so mad.

They don't even understand what the term "asexual" means.

They thought it doesn't refer to humans.

I set them right.

That person really makes me mad....skdjfkjsfd

Anyone willing to talk to me about other things.

I've been feeling lonely and isolated considering I'm pretty sure I'm asexual.

:(

[Brodertun]

asexuals in sexual populations are probably natures solution to keep the population in check

[Charlieee]

Well, if they had an incorrect definition of asexual, then they're really not to blame... :?

Cause, unfortunately, people are ignorant

[Hallucigenia]

There are lots of things that are "needed" for human society to function. We need people to befriend other people, to engage in charitable activities for each other, and to contribute to the infrastructure, economy, and/or government of the places they live in, among other things. Asexuals can do those things just fine. We also need people to reproduce, but not everybody - people have really been overdoing that one lately. So don't worry, you're just as necessary as everybody else.

[SilentD]

triple a- ha! possibly...

charliepyro-people are very ingnorant.

Hallucigenia- basically, i agree.

[Neurovore]

You could say the inverse that

"Sexuals aren't needed...we have enough people for now."

The tautology just doesn't work.

[Shortass Lady]

There are lots of things that are "needed" for human society to function. We need people to befriend other people, to engage in charitable activities for each other, and to contribute to the infrastructure, economy, and/or government of the places they live in, among other things. Asexuals can do those things just fine. We also need people to reproduce, but not everybody - people have really been overdoing that one lately. So don't worry, you're just as necessary as everybody else.

That's what I was going to say! Exactly, there are so many causes and organisations and comapnies and systems that need ideas, manpower, specialist knowledge etc etc, and asexuals can contribute to this just as much as sexuals. OK so maybe asexuals are not needed in terms of continuance of the population but there's enough other people taking care of that anyway. And there's no reason why some asexual couldn't, potentially, discover say a cure for a disease thus saving lives and helping the survival of the species through that means.

[Zanedia]

There are lots of things that are "needed" for human society to function. We need people to befriend other people, to engage in charitable activities for each other, and to contribute to the infrastructure, economy, and/or government of the places they live in, among other things. Asexuals can do those things just fine. We also need people to reproduce, but not everybody - people have really been overdoing that one lately. So don't worry, you're just as necessary as everybody else.

^^^^^^

I agree, x10000!!!! You said it SO well!!! Yes, just because a person isn't in that sort of relationship and producing offspring doesn't at ALL mean that they don't have something worthwhile to contribute. In fact, there is even MORE that can be contributed. Don't EVER forget that. Be proud of who you are

[LonePiper]

*Semantic nazi coming out again*

Okay, if we were to look at it purely in terms of definition, then no. Asexuals aren't needed.

The term "asexual" is specific to sexual preference, which relates directly to reproduction. You have to admit we aren't exactly the first port of call for reproduction, so in effect you could say we are unnecissary within the terms of our definition.

BUT, on a far more universla scale I don't think we could be called any less useful than anyone else. Have you heard of anyone being praised in terms of benefit to humanity for how many kids they have? For how often the have sex? For how many sexual partners they have had?

The ways in which humans tend to be merited in society generally don't have a lot to do with sex.

[starrysky]

ahhh!!!!!

"asexuals aren't needed."

Someone said that at school the other day.

I was so mad.

They don't even understand what the term "asexual" means.

They thought it doesn't refer to humans.

I set them right.

That person really makes me mad....skdjfkjsfd

If you're talking about someone in high school and you expect a random person to know what "asexual" means in reference to humans, your expectations are way too high. The average person isn't going to know what an asexual is. I've been asexual for as long as I can remember and I never heard of the term to describe people until 6 months ago. I didn't know there was a word for people like me.

If they weren't talking about humans, I don't understand why you'd be angry.

And we aren't really needed to continue the species, but what difference does it make if anyone is needed? We're still here anyway. My dog isn't needed, my new TV isn't needed, but I'm going to enjoy the heck out of them nonetheless.

[Charlieee]

Have you heard of anyone being praised in terms of benefit to humanity for how many kids they have?

Actually, I think in some cultures, the greatest honour is to be a mother (or a father), so maybe that honour would grow as you have more children. I know in Judaism, one of the greatest mitzvot (good deeds/commandments) is to raise a child Jewish.

[SilentD]

You could say the inverse that

"Sexuals aren't needed...we have enough people for now."

The tautology just doesn't work.

hahaha. yes! so very true.

[SilentD]

ahhh!!!!!

"asexuals aren't needed."

Someone said that at school the other day.

I was so mad.

They don't even understand what the term "asexual" means.

They thought it doesn't refer to humans.

I set them right.

That person really makes me mad....skdjfkjsfd

If you're talking about someone in high school and you expect a random person to know what "asexual" means in reference to humans, your expectations are way too high. .

Yes, apparently, they are.

[Cacille]

Actually, I think in some cultures, the greatest honour is to be a mother (or a father), so maybe that honour would grow as you have more children. I know in Judaism, one of the greatest mitzvot (good deeds/commandments) is to raise a child Jewish.

And the Jewish people only made it that way so they could continue their ideas of them being the Chosen Ones, as well as keeping their dogma alive.

There is no real honor, only the false honor people put on people who have children so their false doctrines can be passed on to control future generations.

/end cynicism (sorry people, i'm so tired today that i'm not up for being that nice).

[Charlieee]

Is there any "real" honor? Maybe I'm just seeing it differently or wrong or whatever, but to me, honor is just something some high-up official, or important looked-up-to person tagged onto a certain event, like giving birth, or saving another person's life.

If someone still believes that there's honor in doing something, then that thing has honor, or at least for them.

[Insane_Shadow]

if you think about it we really are not needed by most people. but who needs them any way. im content with out being needed by a bucha people. ^^

[Vashti]

No, asexuals aren't needed. Neither are books, stuffed bears, televisions, flip flops, pet cats, and any number of things that we like to have around anyway. All we really need to continue the species is food, water, sex, and shelter - but we like to have a lot more than that. Saying something isn't needed is hardly an insult.

And I agree that expecting some random kid in your class to know that 'asexuals' refers to people without sex drives. The more common definition is the one used in biology, organisms which reproduce without sex; I'd hardly blame someone for not knowing the word has been appropriated by a rather small sexual orientation.

[Goonie]

meh.. I can't say how I would react per say cause I wasn't in the situation... but if asexuals weren't needed, our immune system would be toast

[Frigid Pink]

Sex, or a lack thereof, isn't everything.

Human beings are more complex than to place so much weight on any one thing as the measure of a person or individual's "need."

There are many sexless and/or asexual things in this world that are needed. Look at intelligence and education.

Life is complex. Period.

[thylacine]

Maybe more asexuals are needed since there are too many people devouring the earth's natural resources, polluting the water, destroying the rain forests, and killing off the wildlife.

[tinateaspoon]

So, people who aren't sexual aren't needed? Maybe if humans had trouble pro creating! So, the most useful people in society must be those on the opposite end; the very sexual...like rapists, paedophiles... :roll:

[thylacine]

Face it. The world is over-populated. It would be good for this planet right now to have fewer people having kids -- and the fact is that sex is about having kids. Yeah, most people do it for fun, but if you forget to use protection you are going to be like, "Oops! I think I missed a pill." Results of people having fun: too many people being born, who will grow up and have fun and result in even more people... and so on, and so on... The world need more asexuals. More asexuals result in people who can do work, contribute to society, and not make too many more people!

[crazyjerseygirl]

Well, first off asexuals in a sexual population are actually quite useful.

(biogirl rant approaching)

Noone knows why sex really began, current hypothesis is that asexual reproduction allowed for too many mutations to accumulate. When sex was entered into the equation (remember, even viruses and bacteria can "have sex") it broke the clonal cycle of reproduction of deleterious genes

(still with me?)

In very ancient critters such as bacteria ( I wouln't get into the whole 'is a virus alive' thing today) sex doesnt occur unless there are a-lot of bacteria around. If there is a bottleneck sex disappears and they just concentrate on asexual reproduction. Sex in fact is very rare.

There are even some higher animals which are asexual. My fave, C.elegans, are mostly female/hermaphorditic where the females give birth to clonal representations of themselves. On occasion a mutation occurs and a male is born allowing for sexual reproduction. Put the colony through lean times though and you see no males. It is the asexual hermaphorditic females that carry the worms through these times

There are also the fence lizards

http://biology.creighton.edu/faculty/cullum/Cullum2000.pdf

and a few insects if im not mistaken.

So bah to those kids. Not only were they unaware that asexuality can refer to humans, they were even wrong on their science!

Just for the record though, asexuality is a scientific term, and I can see how people can mix up or misunderstand it in relation to us.

I attended a lecture the other night called, "Sex, Complication and Dominance in DS-RNA viruses" The Dr. was very well spoken and even cracked a few science jokes on asexuals....not on us mind you....just the viruses. So does that mean he is being insensitive? Nah, he's just being funny. So don't worry about the mixups too much, especially among scientists....they don't get any as it is.

TTFN

Renee'

[starrysky]

So, the most useful people in society must be those on the opposite end; the very sexual...like rapists, paedophiles... :roll:

Rape and pedophilia aren't about sex, they're about power, control, dominating someone who isn't strong enough to fight back.

[WhosScruffyLookin]

Considering there are sooo many things that human beings need in order to function that they don't get in western civilisation, I say asexuality is a step in the right direction.

Firstly, because asexuals know themselves and their own minds well enough to know that they don't like sex. Most "people" just go blindly with whatever the heard is doing even if deep down they're asexual and being sexual makes them unhappy. But actually examining yourself, your needs and your desires takes a certain kind of strength and for me, at least, it requires that I have to go against the herd in many ways. Some people might realize that about themselves, but not have the courage to go against the herd.

So the statement "Asexuals aren't needed" to me, shouldn't be taken at face-value. There's a lot underlying that statement that needs to be taken into account first.

And for those that would say "The human race might die out!" I tell them to come back and make their case when we have less than 1 billion people on Earth. IMNSHO, we're in more danger of choking ourselves out than from "dying off" because there aren't enough humans around.

Man, that takes me back. I got thrown out of my environmental ethics class for saying that.

[tinateaspoon]

So, the most useful people in society must be those on the opposite end; the very sexual...like rapists, paedophiles... :roll:

Rape and pedophilia aren't about sex, they're about power, control, dominating someone who isn't strong enough to fight back.

Well they are sort of opposites...being asexual for some is about love not being about sex. For most rapists sex isn't about love. It's about...what you mentioned.

but that's a tad off topic.

[thylacine]

I dunno... I have to disagree. I know that the current philosophy is that rape is about power & blah-blah-blah... I keep thinking about that one & just don't believe it anymore. I used to... but as time went on, I just don't see it... the guy wants sex, he's too cheap to pay for a hooker... simple! Sounds like old fashioned thinking, but that's how I see it. Some people just have sex drives so high they feel a need to rape, some people have sex drives so low they spend all night long on the AVEN website, and most people are in the middle somewhere so they marry, have 2.5 children, and drive a minivan.

[Nerrin]

Speaking as a matter of evolution, asexual orientation (assuming it's the creation of a gene or set of genes) is very beneficial in primates overall. It's really very simple. Most species reproduce for quantity over quality, so at least one of a whole litter survives. These species have very short growth periods. Meanwhile, primates generally bear one or two young at once, and invest many years into them, and lots of resources. A family member that doesn't bear/sire children can proceed to devote itself to aiding the development of others' children, preserving the genetic line through helping the creation of a few robust members instead of many, many weaker members.

And it's not likely to get bred out of humanity, and not just as a matter of "asexuals who feel pressured to have sex anyways." If it relies on a recessive gene, lots of people will be carriers without it manifesting. Or, more likely, if it relies on a host of genes working together, then people will constantly be carrying some but not all of the set in different arrangements, keeping it in the pool and manifesting when it all comes together in the rare person.

[Vashti]

I know that the current philosophy is that rape is about power & blah-blah-blah... I keep thinking about that one & just don't believe it anymore. I used to... but as time went on, I just don't see it... the guy wants sex, he's too cheap to pay for a hooker... simple! Sounds like old fashioned thinking, but that's how I see it.

If a man wants to get laid, he will. Maybe he won't get the hottest girl, maybe he won't get the greatest fuck of his life, but there's a woman out there who'll sleep with him for the price of a couple of drinks or a few compliments. For every oversexed guy, there's an oversexed chick out there too. If he's so desperate for sex that he's willing to rape a struggling woman, isn't he more likely to go for someone who's willing but, for instance, not that hot? There's always an easier way to get laid than pinning a woman down, threatening her, ripping her clothes off, and forcing himself on her while she struggles.

[rubyvirgin]

There's always an easier way to get laid than pinning a woman down' date=' threatening her, ripping her clothes off, and forcing himself on her while she struggles.[/quote']

Personally, I don't think rape is about sex that much at all.

The rapists like the control over another person, it's more than just sex, they are beating the victim through the sexual act, and it's the power that they get to do what they want, and the other person has no choice, the sexual part just adds to the experience, because it brings pleasure and excitement into their violence.